senthil1
09-26 08:43 AM
US economy situation is alarming. I doubt they will consider any immigration related bill until financial crisis stablises.2009 will be the key.Economy has to stablise. If not anti immigrants will block any bill citing the economy as the reason. If unemployment increases every month then any immigration reform is distance possiblity.Illegal immigrants are is getting publicity every year by rally for past 4 years but nothing happened. Pro immigrants are trying to block E-verify and some other anti immigration reforms. Anti immigrants are trying to block pro immigrant reforms. So any immigration reforms will be stalled until some compromise reached by moderates
no comments from anyone on this ..I guess most of us are resigned to our fate ? no problems though since I have also given up ...GC will come when it has to ...it is better to have plan B and plan C ..(i.e. be ready to accept that there is a good chance that getting GC will become more complicated esp if there are layoff's everywhere ..I guess there is already a thread regarding issues faced by people who had to use AC21)
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I guess most of us are angry and resigned to fate ..what if we come with a shock therapy campaign ..i.e. get thousands of legal immigrant signatures ...and say we are fed up with the broken system and we intend to give up and leave US soon .. if this gets lot of publicity then atleast someone (maybe one of the presidential candidate) will come up with a solid promise to do something ??
I have posted this in other threads to get more inputs ...I guess we need something dramatic especially when our cause is dying ...point is to get maximum publicity ..maybe flowers + the intent to leave USA
no comments from anyone on this ..I guess most of us are resigned to our fate ? no problems though since I have also given up ...GC will come when it has to ...it is better to have plan B and plan C ..(i.e. be ready to accept that there is a good chance that getting GC will become more complicated esp if there are layoff's everywhere ..I guess there is already a thread regarding issues faced by people who had to use AC21)
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I guess most of us are angry and resigned to fate ..what if we come with a shock therapy campaign ..i.e. get thousands of legal immigrant signatures ...and say we are fed up with the broken system and we intend to give up and leave US soon .. if this gets lot of publicity then atleast someone (maybe one of the presidential candidate) will come up with a solid promise to do something ??
I have posted this in other threads to get more inputs ...I guess we need something dramatic especially when our cause is dying ...point is to get maximum publicity ..maybe flowers + the intent to leave USA
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samay
08-25 02:55 PM
Dear Immigration Attorney,
Can I out of US with old AP and returned with new (renewed) AP?
You don't need to show the AP at the time you leave the country.
Can I out of US with old AP and returned with new (renewed) AP?
You don't need to show the AP at the time you leave the country.
amsgc
07-04 11:22 AM
Need more titles!
Most persons don't know what USCIS is. I did not know about USCIS/DOS/DOL... until after 1 year in retrogression!
"The US govt. does a number on High Skilled Immigrants"
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5994&page=9
Most persons don't know what USCIS is. I did not know about USCIS/DOS/DOL... until after 1 year in retrogression!
"The US govt. does a number on High Skilled Immigrants"
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5994&page=9
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Macaca
07-04 12:17 PM
having family members like spouses and children fly in to the U.S. to be able to apply for a green card.
Please verify (with URL) that applicant + dependents have to be in US in order to apply!
Please verify (with URL) that applicant + dependents have to be in US in order to apply!
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user1205
02-12 02:55 PM
I doubt it. I think we'll start seeing the results of that rule in the next couple of months and then it will maybe get retrogressed.
Does this mean they have accounted for the people who will claer the name check hurdle after the recent memo? I was expecting EB2 ROW to retrogress based on that.
Does this mean they have accounted for the people who will claer the name check hurdle after the recent memo? I was expecting EB2 ROW to retrogress based on that.
Abhinaym
01-15 02:44 PM
Add hassles to businesses. Appeal to xenophobic voter bank.
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psaxena
01-19 01:28 PM
what did you do to help IV fight?
Is IV fighting for all of us on this?
People are just discussing and discussing but nobody is doing anything. Are any lawyers doing anything?
Is IV fighting for all of us on this?
People are just discussing and discussing but nobody is doing anything. Are any lawyers doing anything?
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tikka
07-03 11:09 PM
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PlainSpeak
01-13 03:32 PM
You've got to be high or sick or both - go see a doctor. Right now you're just throwing trash around.
great so you're trying to incite arguments between members and calling people names. you just proved my point. well don't waste time making empty threats or inciting people on forums.
You can take your trash somewhere else.
If you had any ideas you should have talked to your IV state rep in the last 4 years, it doesn't matter what you post.
Ahhh Tony my friend. You have been a sight for sore eyes. You know how they say a known devil is better than an unknown devil. Lets just say i know where you stand. I do not agree with you but i respect you motivation and i will support your right to express it with my life, but my friend .....
What is this.. This is not how a person should talk. I will not protect or propaget this abuses :P with my little pinkie finger
You've got to be high or sick or both - go see a doctor. Right now you're just throwing trash around.
You know what i am not sick but i really need a cig right now. Jokes aside High or sick hmmmmmmm see a doctor WTF ??. What is with this young people in this worl world. Throwing trash around. woooooooooooooooo
Ok i I rest my case. Nothing good will come out of here
great so you're trying to incite arguments between members and calling people names. you just proved my point. well don't waste time making empty threats or inciting people on forums.
You can take your trash somewhere else.
I am Calling whome what ????? Empty threats ???? HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa What threats are you talking about? Inciting people on the forum. You #@$@#$# (God i try but some people are so out of control u know - That was me talking to myself stopping mysefl from using strong words)
ok sorry abt that. Mr Tony Sirji kindly go and read my commnets to NUKE (A nice guy). It would be the second last comments on this post. After that if you think i am still inciting people you and i have no common ground to talk about anything (Sad i know. I woudl rather be friendly with everyone then fight with someone)
If you had any ideas you should have talked to your IV state rep in the last 4 years, it doesn't matter what you post.
Well if i had some ideas in the last 4 years i assure you i would have. Sorry to dissapoint you but i am not a genius. Hmmm wish i was the i would invent something.
Anyway to get back to the point NO you are wrong about the statement it doesn't matter what you post.Everyone and every idea matters to IV. If not IV would not be what it is now. Albeit i admit my idea may not work(Most probabaly will not) but hey i did come up with one you never know what things will shake up because of some small idea or something some one said (Remember that it works both ways so if you say something stupid it will also reflect on you (Like it is now) and on the organization you represent)
great so you're trying to incite arguments between members and calling people names. you just proved my point. well don't waste time making empty threats or inciting people on forums.
You can take your trash somewhere else.
If you had any ideas you should have talked to your IV state rep in the last 4 years, it doesn't matter what you post.
Ahhh Tony my friend. You have been a sight for sore eyes. You know how they say a known devil is better than an unknown devil. Lets just say i know where you stand. I do not agree with you but i respect you motivation and i will support your right to express it with my life, but my friend .....
What is this.. This is not how a person should talk. I will not protect or propaget this abuses :P with my little pinkie finger
You've got to be high or sick or both - go see a doctor. Right now you're just throwing trash around.
You know what i am not sick but i really need a cig right now. Jokes aside High or sick hmmmmmmm see a doctor WTF ??. What is with this young people in this worl world. Throwing trash around. woooooooooooooooo
Ok i I rest my case. Nothing good will come out of here
great so you're trying to incite arguments between members and calling people names. you just proved my point. well don't waste time making empty threats or inciting people on forums.
You can take your trash somewhere else.
I am Calling whome what ????? Empty threats ???? HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa What threats are you talking about? Inciting people on the forum. You #@$@#$# (God i try but some people are so out of control u know - That was me talking to myself stopping mysefl from using strong words)
ok sorry abt that. Mr Tony Sirji kindly go and read my commnets to NUKE (A nice guy). It would be the second last comments on this post. After that if you think i am still inciting people you and i have no common ground to talk about anything (Sad i know. I woudl rather be friendly with everyone then fight with someone)
If you had any ideas you should have talked to your IV state rep in the last 4 years, it doesn't matter what you post.
Well if i had some ideas in the last 4 years i assure you i would have. Sorry to dissapoint you but i am not a genius. Hmmm wish i was the i would invent something.
Anyway to get back to the point NO you are wrong about the statement it doesn't matter what you post.Everyone and every idea matters to IV. If not IV would not be what it is now. Albeit i admit my idea may not work(Most probabaly will not) but hey i did come up with one you never know what things will shake up because of some small idea or something some one said (Remember that it works both ways so if you say something stupid it will also reflect on you (Like it is now) and on the organization you represent)
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matreen
02-12 11:17 PM
Yes, instead of living in dark lets do something about it....enough is enough.
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tikka
07-04 09:28 AM
I meant a scan of the other 100 page thread Breaking news. I did not follow that thread and it has lot of issues. Please summarize them here.
I will add issues from here! thanks
yeah thats what i meant.
the adds on in red are from the other thread....breaking news...
I will add issues from here! thanks
yeah thats what i meant.
the adds on in red are from the other thread....breaking news...
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sachug22
09-15 06:19 PM
Cutoff for China will never advance India dates for spill overs.
Exactly, there are more EB application from India and most of them are older PD, so with no rule, all it means is that India will get bigger share.
Exactly, there are more EB application from India and most of them are older PD, so with no rule, all it means is that India will get bigger share.
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ita
03-29 10:11 PM
(Though I would also like to see this forum used only for immigration matters..)
Thought of adding in few more points..
So what kind of visionary are you looking for.If we make the current govt's performance as a basis then is it someone like this:
One who questions existence of Rama , makes a success of Sethu samudram project pulling down Ram Sethu thus hitting the sentiments of the Hindus in the Hindu dominated land.
One who arrests Sankaracharya (both semior/junior acharyas)based on suspected conspiracy angle on Deepavali eve and holds him in Jail for 60 days , bringing interruption to the Chandramauleswar puja that has been consistently conducted in the Mutt for 2,500 years (it's another thing nothing was proved for almost 5 years now)
One who abuses Sadhvi Pragnya Thakur with evil intent to bring up something called Hindu terrorism,conduct 4 (not 1/2) narco tests apart from other unmentionable things.
One who overlooks the murder of Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati.
one who set's up conversion camps in Tirumala.
All of them state sponsored.
(On a side note:If Hindus' protest against these acts call them communal, it they don't call them spineless.
It's like Hindus in Hindu dominated land are damned if they do ,damned if they don't)
Well of course none of the Hindu's did anything when all these things were going on.It's another thing that they don't get any credit for their communal harmony kind of nature. Some how the de facto image has to be demonic Hindus who are in majority in India discriminate and hate minorities.)
Mumbai terror attacks, Controversial nuke deal, bomb blasts in 5/6 other cities.
All other candidates in the above poll will surely give some what better performance than this if made PM.
For those who don't know and who are backing Manmohan Singh he never contested any elecetion so far and he is also not fighting these elections.He is taking Rjay Sabha route again. Don't know at what gun point Sonia Gandhi is holding him but this guy actually wants to retire after having had so many major surgeries all his , one more recently.
Buzz is also that if UPA wins Manmhona singh will be made PM and after some time will be replaced with Rahul Gandhi.So it's all hog wash.
I am not sure what vision Mr.Advani has for India. May be at this age he might have better vision than other people in the same league.
Thought of adding in few more points..
So what kind of visionary are you looking for.If we make the current govt's performance as a basis then is it someone like this:
One who questions existence of Rama , makes a success of Sethu samudram project pulling down Ram Sethu thus hitting the sentiments of the Hindus in the Hindu dominated land.
One who arrests Sankaracharya (both semior/junior acharyas)based on suspected conspiracy angle on Deepavali eve and holds him in Jail for 60 days , bringing interruption to the Chandramauleswar puja that has been consistently conducted in the Mutt for 2,500 years (it's another thing nothing was proved for almost 5 years now)
One who abuses Sadhvi Pragnya Thakur with evil intent to bring up something called Hindu terrorism,conduct 4 (not 1/2) narco tests apart from other unmentionable things.
One who overlooks the murder of Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati.
one who set's up conversion camps in Tirumala.
All of them state sponsored.
(On a side note:If Hindus' protest against these acts call them communal, it they don't call them spineless.
It's like Hindus in Hindu dominated land are damned if they do ,damned if they don't)
Well of course none of the Hindu's did anything when all these things were going on.It's another thing that they don't get any credit for their communal harmony kind of nature. Some how the de facto image has to be demonic Hindus who are in majority in India discriminate and hate minorities.)
Mumbai terror attacks, Controversial nuke deal, bomb blasts in 5/6 other cities.
All other candidates in the above poll will surely give some what better performance than this if made PM.
For those who don't know and who are backing Manmohan Singh he never contested any elecetion so far and he is also not fighting these elections.He is taking Rjay Sabha route again. Don't know at what gun point Sonia Gandhi is holding him but this guy actually wants to retire after having had so many major surgeries all his , one more recently.
Buzz is also that if UPA wins Manmhona singh will be made PM and after some time will be replaced with Rahul Gandhi.So it's all hog wash.
I am not sure what vision Mr.Advani has for India. May be at this age he might have better vision than other people in the same league.
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sertasheep
07-03 04:42 PM
We have the following stories compiled so far;
New Jersey Member Stories (http://www.mydatabus.com/public/immigrationvoice/NJ_Stories_V5.pdf)
Disclaimer:This is a PDF. Please use your discretion and caution in scanning it for viruses.
Please note that we need all the extra help, and require your diligent set of eyes and ears.
In addition to that, you can also publish your story here as a post along with your Name and bio details like in the above document.
New Jersey Member Stories (http://www.mydatabus.com/public/immigrationvoice/NJ_Stories_V5.pdf)
Disclaimer:This is a PDF. Please use your discretion and caution in scanning it for viruses.
Please note that we need all the extra help, and require your diligent set of eyes and ears.
In addition to that, you can also publish your story here as a post along with your Name and bio details like in the above document.
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walking_dude
02-13 02:11 PM
Most of these settlement suits were fought by organizations like American Baptist Churches, Catholic Church Services, AILF etc. Meaning, organizations which have a strong steady stream of revenue (unconnected to the lawsuit). Participants didn't have to pay any money out of pocket. And the organizations didn't have to raise money for the lawsuit.
IVs case will be different
1) Significant amount of funds will need to be raised. It will hamper other IV activities such as legislative and executive lobbying as contributions will get diverted. It will be hard to raise another 30k to lobby for adding IV provisions to any upcoming bill, if we are already in the middle of a 50k lawsuit.
2) We need to have a large number of plaintiffs ready to put their names on court papers. These plaintiffs also need to pay money for their participation.
Lawsuits do work. Apparently nobody checked the links I posted on page 1 so here are a few examples:
USCIS Settlement Notices and Agreements
American Baptist Churches v. Thornburgh (ABC) Settlement Agreement
Barahona-Gomez v Ashcroft
CSS
LULAC (Newman)
Ngwanyia v Gonzalez (Asylee Adjustment Case)
Notice of Proposed Settlement Agreement and Hearing in Kaplan, Et Al. v. Chertoff, Et Al., Civil Action No. 06-5304 in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
Notice to Persons Whose Naturalization Applications Were Denied by the Seattle, Spokane or Yakima Immigration Service
Proyecto San Pablo v INS
Ramos v Chertoff (02 C 8266, Northern District, Illinois)
Walters v Reno
Settlement Agreement Signed! Details available by clicking here. --2/9/05
IMPLEMENTATION OF NGWANYIA (ASYLEE ADJUSTMENT CASE) SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT Ngwanyia v. Gonzales, No. 02-502 (RHK) (D. Minn).
If you were granted asylum in the United States and have a pending application for adjustment of status, this settlement applies to you. Please refer to http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/NgwanyiaVGonzales.PDF In recent years immigration law had allowed only 10, 000 asylees per year to adjust their status to Lawful Permanent Residents. Under the settlement agreement, United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) will process an additional 31,000 asylee adjustments during the next three years. During fiscal year 2005, ending September 30, 2005, USCIS will process 8,000 of the additional 31,000, bringing the total number adjusted for the year to 18,000. USCIS will process at least 8,000 of the 31,000 during fiscal year 2006, (October 1, 2005 to September 30, 2006) with the remaining additional applications being processed in fiscal year 2007 (October 1, 2006 to September 30, 2007). The settlement also provides that asylees who have a pending application for adjustment of status may renew their employment authorization document (EAD) by requesting a multi-year EAD with a validity of up to five years. The multi-year EAD must be prepaid for the number of years requested. The cost of the multi-year EAD will be less than the cost of annual renewals by at least $20 per year. A requests for a fee waiver, if applicable, may be made pursuant to 8 C.F.R. � 103.7(c) Cost of multi-year EAD: 1 year card - $175.00 2 year card - $330.00 3 year card - $485.00
IVs case will be different
1) Significant amount of funds will need to be raised. It will hamper other IV activities such as legislative and executive lobbying as contributions will get diverted. It will be hard to raise another 30k to lobby for adding IV provisions to any upcoming bill, if we are already in the middle of a 50k lawsuit.
2) We need to have a large number of plaintiffs ready to put their names on court papers. These plaintiffs also need to pay money for their participation.
Lawsuits do work. Apparently nobody checked the links I posted on page 1 so here are a few examples:
USCIS Settlement Notices and Agreements
American Baptist Churches v. Thornburgh (ABC) Settlement Agreement
Barahona-Gomez v Ashcroft
CSS
LULAC (Newman)
Ngwanyia v Gonzalez (Asylee Adjustment Case)
Notice of Proposed Settlement Agreement and Hearing in Kaplan, Et Al. v. Chertoff, Et Al., Civil Action No. 06-5304 in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
Notice to Persons Whose Naturalization Applications Were Denied by the Seattle, Spokane or Yakima Immigration Service
Proyecto San Pablo v INS
Ramos v Chertoff (02 C 8266, Northern District, Illinois)
Walters v Reno
Settlement Agreement Signed! Details available by clicking here. --2/9/05
IMPLEMENTATION OF NGWANYIA (ASYLEE ADJUSTMENT CASE) SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT Ngwanyia v. Gonzales, No. 02-502 (RHK) (D. Minn).
If you were granted asylum in the United States and have a pending application for adjustment of status, this settlement applies to you. Please refer to http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/NgwanyiaVGonzales.PDF In recent years immigration law had allowed only 10, 000 asylees per year to adjust their status to Lawful Permanent Residents. Under the settlement agreement, United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) will process an additional 31,000 asylee adjustments during the next three years. During fiscal year 2005, ending September 30, 2005, USCIS will process 8,000 of the additional 31,000, bringing the total number adjusted for the year to 18,000. USCIS will process at least 8,000 of the 31,000 during fiscal year 2006, (October 1, 2005 to September 30, 2006) with the remaining additional applications being processed in fiscal year 2007 (October 1, 2006 to September 30, 2007). The settlement also provides that asylees who have a pending application for adjustment of status may renew their employment authorization document (EAD) by requesting a multi-year EAD with a validity of up to five years. The multi-year EAD must be prepaid for the number of years requested. The cost of the multi-year EAD will be less than the cost of annual renewals by at least $20 per year. A requests for a fee waiver, if applicable, may be made pursuant to 8 C.F.R. � 103.7(c) Cost of multi-year EAD: 1 year card - $175.00 2 year card - $330.00 3 year card - $485.00
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Rb_newsletter
08-15 03:30 PM
Why are you guys talking about human trafficking? In this case SRK was not detained for that. He was detained only for his name match.
This is an atrocity of one particular officer. TOI article posted by OP says "There were other immigration officers who even vouched for me but this particular officer did not listen to anyone". You have to notice the gap here. SRK was detained for identity check because of his last name. When other officers vouch why he was still detained.
Thing we should be worried about is, if SRK - who has MPs and other big shots behind him to prove him - needs 2 hours to prove his identity, think about commoners like us. We may get lost without help.
This is an atrocity of one particular officer. TOI article posted by OP says "There were other immigration officers who even vouched for me but this particular officer did not listen to anyone". You have to notice the gap here. SRK was detained for identity check because of his last name. When other officers vouch why he was still detained.
Thing we should be worried about is, if SRK - who has MPs and other big shots behind him to prove him - needs 2 hours to prove his identity, think about commoners like us. We may get lost without help.
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chanduv23
07-04 11:21 AM
DEAR MEMBERS - I JUST SPOKE TO SERTASHEEP AND THE FOLLOWING WAS DISCUSSED.
We are still working on the proper approach and text that must be used to address this issue - folks like Macaca and gang are doing a great job.
That said - please be careful in the language you use. Let us not bad mouth the agencies and keep cheast beating - remember such a thing will work against us. We are benefeciaries and we must only focus on our issues and also convey the message in a positive way.
In external discussion forums - do not get offensive with anyone who tries to oppose us. These things work against us.
REMEMBER, WHAT DRIVES PEOPLE IS NOT REALITY BUT PERCEPTION. WE CAN SHOW ALL DATA AND RECORDS THAT WE ARE RIGHT AND THEY ARE WRONG, BUT THEY ARE DRIVEN ONLY BY PERCEPTION.
If any of you plan to post any external messages or discuss externally or communicate with law makers, media or other websites or even your friends are planning to do it - please run it through Macaca and other forum gurus.
Have a great holiday - today.
We are still working on the proper approach and text that must be used to address this issue - folks like Macaca and gang are doing a great job.
That said - please be careful in the language you use. Let us not bad mouth the agencies and keep cheast beating - remember such a thing will work against us. We are benefeciaries and we must only focus on our issues and also convey the message in a positive way.
In external discussion forums - do not get offensive with anyone who tries to oppose us. These things work against us.
REMEMBER, WHAT DRIVES PEOPLE IS NOT REALITY BUT PERCEPTION. WE CAN SHOW ALL DATA AND RECORDS THAT WE ARE RIGHT AND THEY ARE WRONG, BUT THEY ARE DRIVEN ONLY BY PERCEPTION.
If any of you plan to post any external messages or discuss externally or communicate with law makers, media or other websites or even your friends are planning to do it - please run it through Macaca and other forum gurus.
Have a great holiday - today.
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vamsi_poondla
02-14 12:56 PM
Let us get started with legal opinion of Rajiv Khanna. I believe we have strong grounds for the class action law suit for past sins of USCIS - not utilizing full capacity of VISAs for GC processing. That is defintely operational inefficiency. But USCIS might claim that this may never happen again now that the name check requirement is waived off after 180 days.
Around 80 people voted for the law suit. I am willing to contribute $10 thru Paypal on my part. Please pitch in to make it $600 for the consultation. Then one of the folks in DC can get in touch with Rajiv.
lazycis/hopefulgc I am willing to send $10 as a token of support for your initiative. I am impressed by your confidence and conviction. Let us form a new group and we will definitely get moral support from all good IV members. Personally I dont want to be plaintiff as I have too much to loose. But I support your group. Waiting for your direction.
Around 80 people voted for the law suit. I am willing to contribute $10 thru Paypal on my part. Please pitch in to make it $600 for the consultation. Then one of the folks in DC can get in touch with Rajiv.
lazycis/hopefulgc I am willing to send $10 as a token of support for your initiative. I am impressed by your confidence and conviction. Let us form a new group and we will definitely get moral support from all good IV members. Personally I dont want to be plaintiff as I have too much to loose. But I support your group. Waiting for your direction.
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bondgoli007
09-23 11:07 AM
I Support this idea!!
For the the ones who are skeptical, there are two simple things to consider.
1. Other than 5882 (which is the most preferred) is there anything else out there to help improve the Green card process? ANYTHING? we all would love to hear it.
2. Even if this idea will not work for you (already bought a house/can't buy one right now), if this does go through and reduces the backlog, is it not what you want ultimately?
As usual you are welcome to your opinion but considering the two points above please refrain from negative opinions because that usually dissuades some IV members to come out and support action items.
For the the ones who are skeptical, there are two simple things to consider.
1. Other than 5882 (which is the most preferred) is there anything else out there to help improve the Green card process? ANYTHING? we all would love to hear it.
2. Even if this idea will not work for you (already bought a house/can't buy one right now), if this does go through and reduces the backlog, is it not what you want ultimately?
As usual you are welcome to your opinion but considering the two points above please refrain from negative opinions because that usually dissuades some IV members to come out and support action items.
Imigrait
06-16 04:53 PM
For the most part it is if it were left to market forces. Employers, rationally, would only want as much as talent for the price they pay. Most importantly, employers would be willing to go the extra mile to sponsor green cards only if they perceive that the immigrant employee would add value both in the present and the future. Now again, when I say employers, I mean the genuine employers and not the fly by night consulting body shops or the outsourcing companies. I strongly believe that EB based GC for a very large part is built on merit. You may see sme cases wherein some ordinary people getting green cards. They, in my opinion , are mostly from these body shops who got "lucky".
Of course everyone who have worse qualifications(according to who??-> dilipcr ) are ordinary. Rest of the people are good. This is the same argument as "now that I have GC, let me come out and say retrogressions and less GCs are good, cuz I am qualified and I already have GC."
And yes I agree EB based GC is built by merit. Merit according to the employer who will keep paying the employee if the employee performs his job at least satisfactorily. Dilipcr is not the adjudicator here, the market aka the employer is. And...... the employer is making sure it is following the regulations prescribed by USCIS.
Cant believe I am using that word !!!.
What's not to believe? You just did!
In my opinion it does not. But be careful in this forum though. People may view your statement as egotistic.
People don't view any statement that you're from a top college as egoistic. Ppl view it as egoistic when after 15-20 years out of college you still throw around your college name to make other people treat you differently. Dude, after 20 years people from various colleges are working with you, some doing a worse job than you and some better, colleges don't matter any more for the current job. It might have some influence in a new job.
Now the distortion comes into play when outsourcing companies flout rules and undercut the market through pervasive fraud. Like other industries such as manufacturing/agriculture etc, IT wages are destined to decline but not at this rate. The acceleration in the decline of wages is perpetuated by these scum outsourcing companies. If the decline in wages were let to decline at the speed of market, then it gives talented people time to upgrade skills or move to other industries without having to sacrifice quality of living. So per your argument, yes the end employer is following the rules by employing people from the outsourcing company because the employer does not know or looks the other way of the outsourcing company commiting pervasive fraud. Oh BTW that 80K number was just to highlight that the L1s should be paid high too. It was not based on any scientific or statistical evidence.
Why are you calling outsourcing companies scum? So do you call the companies that manufacture in China as scum too? I know tonnes of engineers from Infosys, TCS, Wipro and others who work for Google,Msft,Apple,Amazon etc etc. So now that these people have bathed in Ganga(google etc etc) their scum is washed off?
"the speed of market" -The outsourcing companies are part of the market. Yes the salaries have gone down, but that's according to the speed of the market, not due to some participants outside the market.
"committing pervasive fraud" - No US or foreign company will keep a company if the value proposition dosen't work for them. For Building a webpage or multi tiered web applications we don't need a rocket scientist. Hence, the market is paying what is deserved. Would you be able to keep a job if you don't perform in the US? Then why will an outsourcing company be treated differently?
Ok it seems lots of other people are also responding so I'll stop here. :D
Of course everyone who have worse qualifications(according to who??-> dilipcr ) are ordinary. Rest of the people are good. This is the same argument as "now that I have GC, let me come out and say retrogressions and less GCs are good, cuz I am qualified and I already have GC."
And yes I agree EB based GC is built by merit. Merit according to the employer who will keep paying the employee if the employee performs his job at least satisfactorily. Dilipcr is not the adjudicator here, the market aka the employer is. And...... the employer is making sure it is following the regulations prescribed by USCIS.
Cant believe I am using that word !!!.
What's not to believe? You just did!
In my opinion it does not. But be careful in this forum though. People may view your statement as egotistic.
People don't view any statement that you're from a top college as egoistic. Ppl view it as egoistic when after 15-20 years out of college you still throw around your college name to make other people treat you differently. Dude, after 20 years people from various colleges are working with you, some doing a worse job than you and some better, colleges don't matter any more for the current job. It might have some influence in a new job.
Now the distortion comes into play when outsourcing companies flout rules and undercut the market through pervasive fraud. Like other industries such as manufacturing/agriculture etc, IT wages are destined to decline but not at this rate. The acceleration in the decline of wages is perpetuated by these scum outsourcing companies. If the decline in wages were let to decline at the speed of market, then it gives talented people time to upgrade skills or move to other industries without having to sacrifice quality of living. So per your argument, yes the end employer is following the rules by employing people from the outsourcing company because the employer does not know or looks the other way of the outsourcing company commiting pervasive fraud. Oh BTW that 80K number was just to highlight that the L1s should be paid high too. It was not based on any scientific or statistical evidence.
Why are you calling outsourcing companies scum? So do you call the companies that manufacture in China as scum too? I know tonnes of engineers from Infosys, TCS, Wipro and others who work for Google,Msft,Apple,Amazon etc etc. So now that these people have bathed in Ganga(google etc etc) their scum is washed off?
"the speed of market" -The outsourcing companies are part of the market. Yes the salaries have gone down, but that's according to the speed of the market, not due to some participants outside the market.
"committing pervasive fraud" - No US or foreign company will keep a company if the value proposition dosen't work for them. For Building a webpage or multi tiered web applications we don't need a rocket scientist. Hence, the market is paying what is deserved. Would you be able to keep a job if you don't perform in the US? Then why will an outsourcing company be treated differently?
Ok it seems lots of other people are also responding so I'll stop here. :D
immi_seeker
09-15 02:39 PM
Here are my Estimate of pending EB2 India case for give years
<=2004 2000
2005 10000
2006 13000
2007(july) 5000
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Total 30000
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This number is very close to Ron Gocthers number prediction a few months back (minus sept approvals).
Collaboration on visa quota data/analysis - Page 6 - Immigration Information Discussion Forum (http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/general-immigration-questions/8419-collaboration-on-visa-quota-data-analysis-6.html)
Pending as of 15 July 2009 145000
EB2 50000
EB3 94000
EB2India (2.4/3.5 EB2) 35714
We can use the LCA number and come close these numbers as well
2005
EB2 India LCA for 2005 = RIR (3000) + PERM (60% of 7290) ~ 7400
Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 5900
1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 13000 I-485 applicantions
Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 5% cross-charageability we get => pending 10000 pending I-485 application for 2005
2006
India PERM applications = 18000
EB2 India PERM applications (60%) = 10800
Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 8640
1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 19000 I-485 applicantions
Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 10% cross-charageability we get => pending 13000 pending I-485 application for 2006
So if we see spillover of more than 30K the date will move beyond July 2007.
Considering the slow economy that spill over is reasonable.
<=2004 2000
2005 10000
2006 13000
2007(july) 5000
==============
Total 30000
==============
This number is very close to Ron Gocthers number prediction a few months back (minus sept approvals).
Collaboration on visa quota data/analysis - Page 6 - Immigration Information Discussion Forum (http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/general-immigration-questions/8419-collaboration-on-visa-quota-data-analysis-6.html)
Pending as of 15 July 2009 145000
EB2 50000
EB3 94000
EB2India (2.4/3.5 EB2) 35714
We can use the LCA number and come close these numbers as well
2005
EB2 India LCA for 2005 = RIR (3000) + PERM (60% of 7290) ~ 7400
Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 5900
1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 13000 I-485 applicantions
Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 5% cross-charageability we get => pending 10000 pending I-485 application for 2005
2006
India PERM applications = 18000
EB2 India PERM applications (60%) = 10800
Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 8640
1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 19000 I-485 applicantions
Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 10% cross-charageability we get => pending 13000 pending I-485 application for 2006
So if we see spillover of more than 30K the date will move beyond July 2007.
Considering the slow economy that spill over is reasonable.
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