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  • pointlesswait
    09-23 09:50 AM
    this is totally lame idea!
    immigration policy is a social and an economic issue..not just economics..
    They dont want too many ppl from one country ..that is the reason for 7% quota...why cant you digest that fact...
    we can fight injustice if we feel we are being treated in an unfair manner..
    but this carrot-and stick approach will back fire...

    i know many who have bought homes even when they were on H1...
    you must be really creative to link EB GC and purchasing a house!



    As completely unrelated these two issues are (from a law maker's perspective) on a normal day, these are possibly those times when each of these issues can help the other.

    IV has been discussing about the possibility of one for two solution (partial). The idea is to request congress to exempt EB applicants & their dependents from numerical limits of the Immigrant visas, if they buy a home. It is my belief that market sentiment is the most important thing in any financial market(s) and the housing prospects look pretty bleak. There are lot of members in the EB community that have NOT bought their own home, even though they could afford one because of the uncertainty with EB GC. IV's idea is to bridge the financial committees and judiciary committees in the House/Senate and see if corresponding Chairman/Ranking members are willing to listen. Things are moving so fast with the 700bn USD bail out plan and we will NOT have time to do things the normal way, through our counsel. We have to present this idea to the corresponding staff members of key members of congress (see list below) and see if this gets traction now or going forward.

    Please do not bring EB-5 discussion/comparison here. The proposed partial solution is different from EB-5 in that EB-5 investors invest money and we are investing in our future with a genuine intention of making USA our permanent home.


    If you already have a home, thats fine. Any such legislation will reduce the wait times in EB categories and we need housing markets to rebound for a safer economy before the ripple effects are felt every where.

    Who to write to

    Staff members(Chief of Staff, Legislative LA, Financial LA, Legislative Director) of Chairman/Ranking members of House/Senate Judiciary committee & Finance/Banking committee, Staff members of your representative and your senators. Please find staff members of the committees in the spreadsheet (http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pptN-jEpAiyd3snslhPjBfw).

    You can find your representative & senator staff members on this website (http://www.outsourcecongress.org/outsource/congress/schstaffers.html).

    Please use valid email addresses and NOT fictitious/junk mail. It undermines the whole purpose and our emails will be flagged by mail scanners / spam checkers as some thing similar to famous Nigeria bank account scams.


    Email Subject: Proposal to alleviate current US Housing/economic crisis

    Content/Message

    SUMMARY

    This proposal alleviates the current US economic crisis, by motivating the US high skilled, legal immigrant workers to purchase homes. The size of this immigrant population is approximately 800,000 individuals. This effort if successful would inject up to US$ 20Billion approximately into the economy (approximately US$ 100 Billion in houses sold across the country) , while at the same time directing this money into the root cause of the economic crisis � the illiquidity of the national housing market. The above calculation is done
    assuming a median US home price of $212,400 and buyers making a down-payment of 20% of the cost of the home. Roughly estimating 400,000 buyers.

    BACKGROUND

    Undoubtedly, we are all devastated by the shake up on Wall Street in the past 15 days. Experts agree that the underpinning problem is the housing crisis caused by sub-prime mortgage loans. Many of us, who cannot afford our monthly mortgage payments are losing homes and putting them up for sale and foreclosure, which further adds to the crisis. At the same time, most of the Employment-based (EB) immigrant community would like to purchase homes and make the United States a permanent home for their families. These EB immigrants however, are living in a state of limbo, mostly in rental apartments because of the delays and uncertainties involved with the EB immigration procedure. The wait times in EB categories are exacerbated by the delays in processing by USCIS, even though eligible applicants have filed for Permanent Residency also known as Adjustment of Status. Such processing delays have resulted in the wastage of 218,000 immigrant visa numbers (Page 52 of USCIS Ombudsman Annual report 2007). The current Department of State visa bulletin shows 7+ years of wait times in certain categories. We strongly believe that legislation can be worked out in such a way that the housing markets all over the country can move towards recovery, while at the same time motivating the Green Card applicants to catalyze this recovery.

    It should be noted that this proposal by no means brings more immigrant workers into the US. The workers in the EB, skilled category are already present in the US, doing skilled jobs that no US worker is available to do. They are part of the long queue of backlogged cases that USICIS will eventually process; however, this wait can take years and in that case could not be used as a tool to minimize the course of the current economic crisis.

    SOLUTION

    Congress can pass legislation that exempts EB green card applicants and their dependents from the numerical limits of visa numbers, provided applicant(s) have bought a home making 20% down payment on the sale price of the home, for a time period deemed necessary by the congress.


    How can Employment based Immigrants help alleviate the housing problem?

    (1) Employment based immigrants are highly skilled and are employed in occupations such as Software, IT, Health care, Energy, Finance, Education and Research & Development across the United States.

    (2) Average income of these individuals/households is around 65,000/130,000 USD.

    (3) All these Employment based immigrants have gone through Department of Labor�s recruiting process, which certifies that there is no willing, able and qualified US Citizen to do the job.

    (4) Most of the Employment based immigrants have excellent credit history and good source of income to make the payments needed for their home mortgage.

    (5) By requiring a 20% down payment from this group of buyers, Congress can directly channel this money to where it is need most � at the banks.

    (6) Employment based green card applicants have been living in the United States for 6-8 years. Many of them have US graduate degrees in their fields of expertise. These applicants are well versed with the American culture and will not change the cultural landscape.

    (7) Financial burden on US government and treasury will be reduced drastically if the glut of houses in the market decreases.


    As a member of the community that wants to make the US its permanent home, I want to contribute to a solution that helps USA and US during these tough times. I sincerely believe that the 30 year commitment on mortgages by Employment based immigrants in the housing market, backed by solid, risk free mortgages can turn the down ward spiral in the housing market into a upward spiral.

    END OF CONTENT





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  • Saralayar
    01-27 12:45 PM
    DPuranik,
    You have provided a old URL link. Afterwards, the I-140 Premium is extended to all categories including labor substitution cases. Infact, Murthy website also updated that. If you are not sure, do some research on that topic and then post your views.





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  • Michael chertoff
    07-17 08:43 AM
    Please do not force the Immigration lawyer to answer your question IV has left it to the lawyer to answer questions they want to. This is a free service for IV members. We are grateful to the lawyer for this help.


    I am sorry pappu.

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  • chmur
    02-12 11:05 PM
    Some of the events in the last week seem to indicate so ??

    1. Writeoff FBI namechecks pending for > 180 Days
    2. Moving EB3 dates in smaller increments . Eb3 India was moved by ~3 Months


    Step 1 was crucial because this will enable USCIS to approve all the applications within 'Current Dates'. Atleast now, USCIS will know pretty clearly where they stand when they move the dates (in conjunction with DOS) , unlike last June fiasco.

    Step 2 ; Moving the dates in reasonable increments indicates they do not want to loose control of approval process . Lot of 2003 /04 filers got GC's in last July at the cost 2001/2002 filers . It was obviously arbitrary once they made everything current and probably depended on how eager an officer was to grab those visa numbers for his /her cases. USCIS lost control over the process.


    Regarding EB2 heart burn - Blame it on substitute filers, obviously most of the line breakers would have used EB2 rather than EB3. But I think eventually EB2 will get higher priority and move faster then EB3 once the Unused numbers from others categories gets distributed after June /July. Calm your nerves.


    I only wish if they had streamlined the process in this fashion about 3-4 years back . We would have not lost 200,000 visas and most of the dates would have been current or at the most 2 years behind. Very reasonable.

    Am I dreaming....has USCIS got it's act together??


    I forget , IV was not around 3-4 years back.


    But we cannot be too enthusiastic about these good news because unless those 200,000 numbers are recaptured the dates will soon get struck in near future .



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  • Munna Bhai
    01-26 08:34 AM
    Hello,

    My I-140 is approved and I have a PD of Feb 2006.

    One of my colleague whose job description is little different then mine has a PD of Sep 2003 and his Labour got approved but he left the company.

    So is there anyway his approved labor is useful to me. What are the ifs,buts etc.
    ----------------
    I changed your thread title. when you start a new thread make your thread title descriptive for all members to easily sift through threads, else your thread will be closed or deleted. Thanks for understanding- Admin

    Thanks Pappu. Is this called Labour substitution? I don't know that term.Any input regarding this is greatly appreciated.





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  • pd_recapturing
    03-14 09:37 AM
    I heard that if you apply on your own and move out of US, it becomes very difficult to let the Can immigration authority about your current location and keep track of all the correspondence with them. But, the agency/lawyer does this thing very efficiantly. Any opinion on this ?



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  • java_jaggu
    06-26 01:24 PM
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Thanks for making me look like an idiot in front of my lawyer and HR, everyone.

    Based on RUMORs, I asked my lawyer this question:

    Quote:
    I have a question about July Visa bulletin. If the August bulletin is retrogressed when announced in mid-July, can the USCIS change rules and stop accepting new Adjustment of status petitions in mid-July ? I know that it sounds illogical and that July bulletin's current dates would apply thru July 31st but I am hearing from my professional colleagues that USCIS could change rules and stop accepting new AOS petitions in middle of the month.

    And I got this reply :

    Quote:
    Yes, what you raise is quite illogical. The visa bulletin controls which AOS can be filed during the calendar month for which it is published, there is no way for USCIS to stop receiving an AOS application received say on July 16th. AOS is not like an H1B filing, where there is a finite # that must be received by a date certain and then allocated.
    Reply With Quote

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I do not think what you asked was illogical. The only reason I'm saying this is the EB-3 Other Workers Category suddenly became unavailable in the middle of this month, which was quite baffling to say the least. So, even though I agree with what your lawyer says, I don't think we can rule out the possibility of a curve ball being thrown in the middle of July. So may be, you can let your lawyer know that your initial question was based on the EB-3 Other Worker category becoming unavailable in the middle of the month without any warning and if USCIS can legally do something for the categories we are concerned about.

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  • lazycis
    02-18 01:30 PM
    Neither of us are lawyers and I wouldn't even bother reading what you wrote. All I can say is, why don't you ask your immigration lawyer about this Class Action. Let's see what he says.

    Did you ask you lawyer? It's so much easier to criticize.
    My immigration lawyer laughed when I asked about a possibility of filing WOM to force action on my stalled I-485. So I proceeded myself. Yes, I did many mistakes but I ultimately prevailed. AILF lawyer and Assistant US Attorney could not believe that an ordinary programmer can write quality legal briefs and challenge the government. Some of my friends did not bother with WOM and are still waiting while others followed and received green cards. If you think outside of the box, you can achieve something others could not.





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  • user1205
    02-15 06:31 PM
    probably true but because most of them are on H4 which means someone else in their family is H1.

    I think it was reported that students from India is the largest % of students in US universities.



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  • Subst_labor
    03-17 11:07 PM
    Please do not use offensive language. Despite our disagreements we must be mature in our language. I request you to please edit your post. Moderators please delete any offensive posts on the thread since this issue will ruffle some feathers of people who are buying labor substitution. Nobody will own on the forum, because they know majority will oppose them.
    There was one more person beciskillingme and he used to preach morality on this forum and how people need to be respectful and polite. I caught him redhanded in one his posts about labor substitution and he ran away from the forum. Now he is preaching somewhere else. I will highlight this issue more and more for awareness because it is hurting all of us. It is also encouraging exploitation by employers and this cancer needs to be stopped asap.

    well if you feel offended, i am ready to offer my apologies. are you ready to take back your baseless accusations-that got me started up in the first place.





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  • mantric
    02-15 05:53 AM
    Completely agree with Googler.

    While I have sent the letter and convinced a few friends to do so let's be realistic. It is too easy for this letter campaign to be swept under the carpet of the next crisis to occupy the attention of the government. The letters may just get thrown in the garbage - whether 2000 or 20000. Nobody is answerable. Based on past history for such campaigns the chances for success are pretty low. Also this friendly govenment does not have much time left.

    This is ultimately a fairness issue. There are issues of discrimination based on country of origin. Careers are stopped midtracks for nationals of particular countries. For ages. This situation is completely unnatural. If someone gets a promotion he has to go back to the beginning of the queue. Growth potential and economic contribution is retarded during career prime. And if it was'nt bad enough already, visa numbers have been wasted in huge numbers to make things worse.

    Going to the courts appears to be the only way to make people confront this fairness issue, that these delays and uncertainty are affecting real lives and careers. It will reinforce any letter campaign.
    People who think the current laws are fair should be reminded that it is only the consequence of the laws that matters not the intent.

    Also everyone please browse through the previous I-485 lawsuit site -
    http://www.immigration.com/litigation/I-485_litigation.html
    If has a lot of useful information.

    Note the background for that lawsuit was that a letter campaign had failed to bring results.


    Just wanted to chime in to say that filing a lawsuit will only aid any campaign for admin fixes. The NC changes were done administratively but anyone who tells me that the scathing rulings from the federal courts had nothing to do with current changes is living in denial -- the recent rulings essentially shredded the legal basis for the form of these NC checks and attendant delays.

    There is absolutely no reason not to pursue both options. It would be totally delicious to have USCIS testify in court and explain exactly how they f&$@-ed up badly enough to pervert congressional intent and waste approx 120K EB greencards in 2003-2004.

    Write your letters (what does it take 10 min of your day), you have nothing to lose and something to gain by that. I did. But don't forget suing is the American way of justice.



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  • thomachan72
    01-14 08:52 AM
    Is AILA doing anything about it? Do they need IV member support? How do we make it clear to the USCIS and Govt that targetting H1b and the free will of the employer to hire H1b is PURE SOCIALISM and anti-capitalism. It is a sure way of destroying the capitalistic engine that is keeping the US ahead. Is US becoming a restrictive economy like China? China is moving slowly but surely out of its old ways and becoming more and more open to capitalistic policies and we are finding the US slipping slowly but surely into protectionism and more socialistic principles.
    How can you protect jobs here by taking away the job of another person??
    The person was hired in the first place due to a lot of economic reasons that only a capitalist would know/understand. Simply by snatching the job away from one person and attempting to give to another WILL NOT HELP.
    This reactive response to unemployment will destroy whatever industry is left here. Even research is now being outsourced. Biotech/research triangles are springing up in china and India and elsewhere. Major US universities are now collaborating or setting up independent shops in India and china. Ofcourse Japan and europe is not at all behind. Where is the US left now? CRYING CRYING ABOUT H1B VISAS???? IS IMMIGRATION IS REAL CAUSE OF UNEMPLOYMENT HERE???????
    FINALLY ONE THING I HAVE REALIZED "WHAT IS DESTINED TO HAPPEN WILL HAPPEN".





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  • GCard_Dream
    02-12 02:15 PM
    If the current EB3-ROW move is any indication one can rely on, I think you will be current in next month's bulletin. I bet you can't wait.

    I wonder what kind of move we might see for eb3 -row next month.

    Yeah, Tell me about it!!!

    Just two more months and mine would have been current!!!!



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  • chanduv23
    05-18 08:31 AM
    Best of luck...sri lankan sinhalese and sri lankan tamils...I hope you can accept each other's perspectives and move away from extreme positions.sri lanka is such a beautiful country. i hope i can visit again and explore the northern areas..here's wishing peace with dignity (not subjugation) for all.

    If you talk to a Sri Lankan tamil - they are under the impression that Sinhalese people are barbaric and we cannot live with them in peace. If you talk to Sinhalese they say the same.

    The thing is - it is difficult to change people's views and opinions. The whole thing about history and religion and discussing what people did thousands of years back and why people are killing now and linking things is just an example of how a human mind is oriented.

    We can clap only if two hands join. If one part seeks peace and the other does not - then it is not as easy as we all preach.

    Lets take the example of how difficult it is for us to get any legislation passed to help clear our backlogs and resolve our issues. Now, why is it so difficult? It is not because the system is noy good - no one other than US who suffer will agree the system is not working. If you step into the shoes of someone from the other side - you will realise that - things are not easy, especially to deal with Beurocracy.

    Will things change? Lets hope for the best - let us atleast do our part by inculcating love and good heartedness in our next generation - let us not tell them - "in history such thing happened thats why I have this opinion and you must also have the same opinion"





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  • gonecrazyonh4
    11-11 10:49 AM
    One of my friends informed me about immigrationvoice.com few months back, I am EB3 with PD Jan 2003 and currently waiting to file I-485 for last one year. It is frustrating to hear how some of the companies are bypassing and jumping ahead on the line. I thought I get some opinion; I am curious why this isn't being bunged. Although using a pre-approved labor is a legal thing, how much of sagacity does it really have? Within my little 10-12 friend circle I have had atleast FOUR people who got their GC within 8 months through this same company - KFORCE, Rapidigm Inc., utilizing pre-approved labor. It seems this company lures people with a condition that they will process their GC within couple of months, isn't this using the legal system at their business advantage.

    What can we do to stop this, it is frustrating to me as I am waiting for close to four years with my GC process and been in the US for 7 years. At the same time, I see people who have been in the US for 2 years has their GC. To me this legal system does not make any sense and is a clear proof of injustice. I am thinking of talking to a legal attorney to see if this makes a justifiable case and if possible file a lawsuit for scrutiny against this company or any company that uses this facility for their benefit. May be I am overreacting and this is the reason I am posting it here to get an opinion, what do you guys think ?

    I completely agree that Substitute labor is being used is the wrong sense. My husband is now in his 7th year of H1B and I am still on H4.

    At the same time our friend who came in 2005 to USA through an Indian company joined Rapidigm in 2005, received a 1999 priority date Labor and received his Green card (& for his wife too) in 8 months time.

    This iextremely unfair means of acquiring GC and should be blocked legally.Meanwhile Rapidigm has been acquired by Fujitsu .



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  • bayarea07
    07-27 05:51 PM
    Here is the story (in a free book format) of a big Shot (I believe he was emerald ) who went broke while doing amway (MUST READ BEFORE DOING AMWAY)

    http://www.transgallaxys.com/~emerald/files/MerchantsOfDeception.pdf





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  • vjkypally
    09-17 04:37 PM
    I do not think it would be 10,000 primary. Probably around 3000 ~ 5000 primary applications. But if you consider dependents yes we may be talking about nearly 10,000 EB2I visas.





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  • thomachan72
    09-15 02:07 PM
    Dont know where you guys get all this information but this thread is like a lamp when you are gropping in a dark cave. The tone seems to be very mild (no hatred / quarelling) and everybody seems to maintain and spread a positive attitude. One thing is undeniably true and that is a positive attitude / outlook always attracts positive things. I encourage everybody to purposefully cultivate positive thoughts (eg:- "something surprising good is going to happen").





    Googler
    02-14 03:30 PM
    Just wanted to chime in to say that filing a lawsuit will only aid any campaign for admin fixes. The NC changes were done administratively but anyone who tells me that the scathing rulings from the federal courts had nothing to do with current changes is living in denial -- the recent rulings essentially shredded the legal basis for the form of these NC checks and attendant delays.

    There is absolutely no reason not to pursue both options. It would be totally delicious to have USCIS testify in court and explain exactly how they f&$@-ed up badly enough to pervert congressional intent and waste approx 120K EB greencards in 2003-2004.

    Write your letters (what does it take 10 min of your day), you have nothing to lose and something to gain by that. I did. But don't forget suing is the American way of justice.





    kuhelica2000
    02-12 08:21 PM
    Per country limit applies to every country in exactly the same way. It doesn't discriminate between Chad or China. So, how is it discrimination? And think about it- in Olympics soccer/basketball every country can send only one team. Should China and India be allowed to send more teams since they have a larger population? We should try to increase the number of GCs.

    No matter which side you are on, the quota system sucks. Period.

    1) Once you start receiving benefits out of being born in a particular country/ race/ sex/ religion, a notion of "entitlement" quickly builds up within you. This adversely affects your ability to perform, for you just don't have to work hard enough!
    2) If you are punished for being born in a particular country/ race/ sex/ religion, you have no incentive to perform, as you won't get what you deserve no matter how hard you work!

    How about this... during every Olympics, most number of Gold Medals are won by Americans. Now imagine a rule that prevents more than 7% of all Gold Medals going to people born in any one country. How does that sound?

    I will myself hate it if athletes from India (who haven't won anything in the Olympics till date) started winning gold medals simply because other countries cannot receive more than 7%!

    Of course, removing country caps will face opposition, but it should still happen, just because it is the right thing!



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