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  • PlainSpeak
    01-13 12:44 PM
    I think you should start EB3India.org (not affiliated to IV) similar to EB3Chinese.org
    There is an old chinese saying

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  • Dyana
    02-14 12:29 PM
    Hi Bestia

    I see your PD is Aug 2004 for EB3 ROW, and U already filed I 485.
    I need some help: My PD is also Aug 2004, I'm in the EB3 ROW. When can I start filling I-485? The March VB says 01JAN2005. What is the last date I can file?
    Thanks 4 help.





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  • amoljak
    10-24 11:11 AM
    We have so much discussion on this topic in many threads but i dont know why people want to discuss samething again and again.

    We know LC substituion is good for few and worst for many...

    Admins can you please close the thread...

    One person stepped out of the line and another one took his place... How is that worse for you (or anybody else)? (let alone worst) You are still 957,643rd in the line :)





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  • aroranuj
    09-23 01:33 PM
    I am already a HOMEOWNER but I think this bill is good for all as those who buy new homes move out of the line & we move quicker. Congress works in strange ways & if the core thinks this is the best way to get around it & including current homeowners will be a dealbreaker I am for it....Lets support what we can get.

    I emailed half the people on the list & will email the other half in the next couple of hours...

    IV CORE: THANK YOU for thinking for every single possible way of getting us out of this rut...you have my full support!!!:)



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  • innervoice
    09-24 12:47 PM
    I'm on H1 and I also bought a house 2 year ago, though would like to sell my house , it's a great idea as I can sell my house easily if that strategy worked out. Then I can buy a house again in order get a GC quickly. ;)

    Great Idea! I do support.





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  • rpat1968
    07-04 10:34 AM
    Lets start contacting DOS about the un timely VISA Bulletin update that has caused so much of Injustice to all of us :

    Here is the Link :

    http://contact-us.state.gov/cgi-bin/state.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php?p_sid=6F7NSLFi&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfc m93X2NudD0xMTEmcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PSZwX2N 2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX25sJnBfc GFnZT0x

    We should send out personal stories about the waste of time, money and persoanl agony caused due to the updated visa Bulletin.



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  • Ramba
    03-19 05:15 PM
    I did canada PR myself two years back and I got the visa in 10 months. It is so easy. However I did not go there and wasted my canada PR. Now I am seriously thinking again.

    I applied canada PR when my LC was pending at labor department. I was expecting that my LC will go to BEC. That is why I applied Canada PR as there was a talk going on about backlog center creation in 2004. Luckilly my LC was approved at regional level. It did not go to BEC. I could file 140 and 485 as PD was current that time. That gave me a confidence in skipping the Canada PR. Moreover, I heared a story, if they (Canada/US) know, if 485 pending during the landing process they will give hard time by asking you to select either US PR or Canada PR at the borderpost. Imagine, how hard it will be at the border to answer this kind of life deciding questions. Therefore I skipped the canada PR. Now it is becoming almost 2 years. No sign of CIR yet. Spending lot of money on EAD and AP. On top of that lot of frustration. Now I am seriously considering that I missed Canada, I should have gone that time. I do not know what to do, whether I should apply again (lot of money) or wait for GC as my 485 still pending.





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  • vhd999
    09-04 03:37 PM
    I am very reluctant to post in this thread. But could not resist.

    Few weeks ago, I was watching TV here in US. The monsoon rains arrived late in AP and YSR declares that the rains have come back because he and his party are now in the power.

    With a smirk on his face he says that the rain would not come if he had not won the elections.

    He also states that the God was happy that he is in the power and blessed all the people with those rains.

    I could not believe how these politicians can portray their self image and how those illiterate or hopeless people fall into their traps.

    Now, it seems, the same rain is the cause for the brutal death of YSR. I am not sure how to interpret his own words.



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  • Openarms
    08-17 03:35 PM
    Well - world is definitely a beautiful place. World is beautiful because of beautiful good people. Like there is a saying "How is house different from a home? House maybe be beatiful and big but it is a home ONLY if it is a happy place to live" and making the world our home lies in how we make sure that it is a happy place to live.

    While your approach towards solving the problems is "education" in my opinion education does help, but that is NOT the only factor. Change happens gradually. Don't we all agree that the most educated people might be the biggest "problem creators"


    WRT snathan - he is a personal friend and I know him. He is sympathetic towards poor and downtrodden and wants to fight against injustice etc.....

    To snathan - to understand things in a better perspective, I recommend that you try this. Invite 30 hungry, poor, starving people to your house and provide them with food, education, good life and ask them to seek opportunities to better themselves. You may face the following

    (1) People may get more demanding
    (2) They may fight among themselves
    (3) Some might steal from you
    (4) Some might get into unethical activities
    (5) Some might disrespect you and step over you
    (6) They may show more respect to those who did not care for them and curse you for some silly reason.

    You might find some good people who really do what you intend them to do.

    Why I say this is - there is no GOOD POOR MAN nor BAD RICH MAN - different people behave different in different circumstances.

    Did you know that India's independence struggle, American civil liberty struggle were all funded by rich businessmen - they trusted the leaders and gave a lot of money for campaigns for them to be successful.

    You think like Donald Trump, start learning how Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and good many other folks think... Once they become who they are now they realized that they are bigger and able to do some good for their country/world. How about Trump, once he became Trump he just stayed there... So now when has to given respect who would you give respect?????

    SRK, Politicians and Business Tycoons can learn in life try to do some good for their country / world so they can be respected and worshiped.

    I do not want SRK to become a Mother Theresa, Bill Gates or even Warren Buffet all of a sudden.. he may never be able to after all...try to be at least a 30% of a man who himself portrays in his films as HERO - an ideal man.





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  • hydboy77
    06-01 12:28 PM
    You are 100% correct, all this pre-adjudication is a nonsense, knowing how uscis does things does anybody believe USCIS will not issue EVL in future, offcourse they will, how else can they justify there existence to continue recieving there salaries and pensions. This is such a joke, the whole idea of pre adjudicating would be that all the processing is done and when the date becomes current they can just pick the file and assign the visa number and issue the green card. But they will not do that, they will tinker with the application and issue an Employment verification letter, they will redo background check, they will ask for finger prints again........unending nightmare, I am not being synical just telling from past USCIS actions.

    If we cannot get visa recapture, if we cannot get removal of country quota atleast we should ask for an administrative fix where once the application is pre adjudicated the applicant should be left alone and not issed any Employment verification letter rfe, or semilar\same job proof if they are back logged because of country quota and face multiple year wait, this way atleast it will give people some breating space, the way the system if set up right now, EAD, 485 pre adjudication, I140 approval are all useless if you keep getting Employment verification letter rfe and same semilar job rquirement. Without visa recapure it is going to take atleast 10 years for Eb3 and Eb2 india (eb2 priority date after Mid 2003), in the next 10 years you will keep getting Employement verifivation letter rfe and semilar and same job requirement, there is no way anybody can survive that for 10 yeears.

    So guys and gals what do you think about it, maybe we are looking at it the wrong way, instead of visa recapture (I am not saying we should abandon visa recapture) we should also try for exemption of cases which have been preadjucated (485) from Employment verification letter RFE and same and semilar job requirement. Atleast this way even if it takes 10 years to get green card people will not have nightmares of being kicked out any time and with the stability they will invest in buying a house and spending which will stumulate the economy. Its a win win for everyone, for us EB immigrants, for the economy and also easy to fix as an administative fix. We have simpathetic people in Zoe Lofgren (Chair - Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law ) she was instrumental in forcing USCIS to reverse there decision during the july 2007 fiasco and accept the 485 application. We also have Charles Schummer. It is not that big a deal to ask for exemption of cases which have been preadjucated (485) from Employment verification letter RFE and sam and semilar job requirement, there are people with from other counries who have got a green card in a coule of months to 1 or 2 years whereas people from India are waiting with priority dates from 2000 and 2001. Once you get a green card you are exmpted from any rfe or same and semilar job requirement, it takes more than twice the time to get a green card for a person from India that to get a citizenship for a person from ROW. because of the long delays with us being in this process for multiple years and having to wait another 10 years for green card we should request for rfe exmeption for pre adjudicated 485 applications. I am sure we will get a sympathetic ear from Zoe Lofgren and like minded lawmakers. These Employment verification letter RFE and same and semilar job requirement were not framed assuming it takes a person from India 10+ years to get a green card. There were framed assuming it takles 2 to 3 years to get a green card.
    Lets be creative and try to work around the problem if we cannot resolve the problem directly, if we dont ask how will the lawmakers know this problem can be resolved by removing EVL RFE and same and semilar job requirement.

    It is very likely that these pre-adjudicated cases may be revisited for further processing in future for cases with more recent priority dates. This is just my opinion based on the fact of the predicted slow movement of EB-I priority dates in coming months and next fiscal year. Since so many AOS applicant have been pre-adjudicated , EVL RFE may be issued in future for cases who are pre-adjudicated now but their PD will only become current after 2, 3 or 4 years. This may be to verify that the applicant still has job offer at that time when visa becomes available. So I guess pre-adjudicating application, does it really make sense for later PDs? Any comments on this by other members?



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  • Kushal
    07-27 11:26 AM
    If you are making millions with Amway, why are you sitting with a EB-3 PD ? Go for EB-5 :)
    From Wiki "more than half of the distributors do not make any money, with the average distributor making less than $100 per month."

    What has EB5 to do with amway?
    Did I mention I'm making millions? Obviously on the way, but atleast I have something to fall back to if I loose my job. Do you?





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  • wellwishergc
    07-03 04:32 PM
    I would suggest getting the congressmen/senators' attention on this issue. If not a short-term benefit, this issue may give us mileage to get a legal-immigration based bill rolling this year.

    Here is one more to digg

    http://digg.com/politics/Rep_Lofgren_Issues_Statement_on_Updated_Visa_Bulle tin



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  • mallu
    02-14 02:50 PM
    Let USA take a statistics of the current population and then decide which category of countries need more or less immigration to balance true diversity.





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  • HereIComeGC
    02-15 12:46 PM
    Oh and by the way, if people sue and WIN lawsuits for "COFFEE BEING TOO HOT" or the one "McDonalds made me fat" This one has much more credibility

    "CLASS ACTION AGAINST USCIS? My god, you have no idea what you're talking about"

    Freedom without violence?? Man on the Moon?

    Sounds familiar?

    You would have said few months back "GC without FBI Namechecks? You have no idea what you are talking about"

    You can't win if you don't even try. Simple as that. At the minimum, lawsuit will highlight all the issues in the broken process and get some serious media action.



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  • jayleno
    07-21 03:11 PM
    To a_yaja,

    Thanks for your detailed story my friend. This thread is turing into a support group for Amway/Quickstar victims.
    How is your experience with your childhood Amway friend. Still friends or just keeping in touch because he has the acess to the Amway database? :P

    [QUOTE=a_yaja;1971286]I have come across quite a few of the Amway/ Quickstart folks. Like most of the people have described here, they usually approach me in Walmart, Meijer, etc. My first experience was in the temple. This dude and his wife went "oh wow! you know so many languages." After talking to the dude, he said that he knew some of my childhood friends and he remembered my face and that we could have possibly played cricket together in our childhood days (this itself should have raised red flags - but I was naive then and didn't think twice). Long story short, we exchanged phone #s and next day he called me and asked me to meet him at his home. He was running an "ecomm business" and was looking for partners. I asked him if he was talking about Amway and he innocently asked me "What is Amway?" I agreed to meet him but something bothered me. I called up another childhood friend who was in Amway and asked him about this dude. Sure enough he was an Amway-ite and already a "Diamond". I was mad and did not go to his house. He called me a couple of times but I never picked up the phone.

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  • thomachan72
    01-14 07:03 AM
    This news has left a lot of our members without sleep I guess. There could be somany people who might be involved in such contract comapanies. At some point we will have to decide between; Can I/we do something about this or how do I prepare myself for such an eventuality.
    I think IV members should work with AILA by offering support and seek their advice on how to understand and face this issue. Some of our members pointed out the AILA is working on this issue so let us contact them first.
    If it seems worthy enough to write to the USCIS directly (properly crafted letter not just self pity) highlighting the importance of sustaining the H1b while ofcourse preventing abuse. Highlighting that H1b is a boon to this economy and taking away jobs from one person does not essentially create job for another. The person was hired by the company/industry in the first place due to a lot of economic reasons that only a true capitalist would understand. Cutting of H1b/labelling H1b as evil and targetting it to destroy the efficacy of this system is actually socialism and this is what needs to be made very clear to the officials.
    They cannot over regulate the "immigration for economic reasons". If they do they are actually destroying the very basis of growth and are "thinking socialist".





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  • GCAmigo
    02-14 12:24 PM
    Allowing anybody with an approved labour certification to immediately file for their 485 is clearly a bad idea given the constraints of the system as outlined by unitednations. We could make a change in our proposal so that only people with, say, a five year old priority date and an approved 140 could file for their 485 without a current priority date. oguinan

    a 3-yr deadline..as I just entered my 4th year of this endless pain..





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  • a.j.2048
    03-27 12:46 PM
    I wish India allows absentee ballot.

    The way things are right now, as NRIs, we can't even register ourselves in the electoral rolls even if we want to plan a trip to India to conincide with election time.

    You can register to vote as long as you have a permanent address in India, which is pretty much anyone except a US citizen. Voting itself is inconvenient as you have to travel to your constituency for that.





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    NKR
    02-19 02:51 PM
    NKR, my friend, i'm puzzled, u speak of in-state tuition, visa stamping, life insurance.. how is that different for ROWs from others, we are all the same in that, we are all the same being skilled immigrants all of us, when i complain that someone says indians and chinese are here in larger numbers because they are best and brightest and ask them to be sensitive it doesn't mean that we all suffer the same hardships.. when i state the fact that bodyshops contributed to the longer lines for some countries i don't say i'm indifferent to your suffering, but i also say it can't be fixed by making another group suffer
    peace..

    You have to look at the context in which my comments were made. Somebody said that H4 spouses go to college and pay instate fees but they have to pay international fees. I never said that ROW people do not have any of those problems but it just that we have to endure that for some more years. Having said that, I reiterate that I want my GC fast but not at the expense of ROW people. They do not have to endure a longer wait.

    I thought this thread was given a decent burial, I could trust only you to bring this thread back to life with your hidden agenda of driving a wedge between Indians/Chinese and ROW.



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