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  • at0474
    12-13 11:35 AM
    Discrimination in employment based on nationality is not allowed. However, can we extend the argument to the employment based immigration? We can always choose to take that promotion though we will lose our place in the queue.

    Leaving the question of fairness aside, under the current legal framework my guess is we do not have a case.

    --I think, per country quota system was framed with diversification as underlying principle, not discrimination.

    Depending on which country you are from, it may seem like discrimination or fair system upholding diversity.

    If you are from India, you would hate it. There are truckloads of programmers in that country. But if you are the only graduate with programming skills from a country like timbaktoo (?), you would love it. You also got a shot at american dream.

    This EB quota system reminds me of Caste reservation system in India. To some that is fair, to others, it is unfair. Depends on which side of the fence you are.





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  • hiralal
    06-12 10:33 PM
    since we are not having any campaigns to help ourselves ..let us have a campaign to expose the L1 / EB1 visa / GC fraud !!





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  • vxg
    06-04 01:09 PM
    Instead of Interim GC we should demand that once Labor and I-140 is approved remove the restriction wherein a person has to stay in same job type until GC approved in other words allow the person to take any job while I-485 is pending. This will be a big benefit and logically makes sense. If this happens than GC wait will not pigeon hole people's career in one job and allow them to grow and contribute to economy.
    Giving an interim GC while visa number is unavailable will have the effect of bypassing the entire GC quota system. How do you want the interim card to be different from the final thing? No way that anyone in Congress will allow for their laws to be overridden through USCIS rulemaking.





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  • cloud 9
    06-12 04:11 AM
    dilip (Loooooser no 1)

    If you are really bright (as you claim that u graduated from best college of Rajasthan), then you should not worry about wages. Bright people always find jobs and make money irrespective of how many people are in the market.

    I feel that after getting your GC you starting enjoying life and forgot to upgrade your skills. may be you came to USA after doing one month course in Java or COBOL during late 1990's.



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  • BharatPremi
    12-13 06:02 PM
    it's not the cost of getting an opinion that matters.
    See my two prior posts on being pragmatic.

    I see your point that if we are sure of not getting the result than why to take pain...

    But are we really that squared and check mate for this issue?





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  • Michael chertoff
    01-14 08:30 AM
    What about people who are on there EAD? who dont have H1B anymore? any comments?

    Please shere some infoormatin about this too. there are so many people like that, including me.

    Thanks

    MC



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  • GCKaMaara
    05-29 04:09 PM
    All those people who are saying let us inform USCIS, if 50% of them go home today and draft letter and post or email it, then that will be significant achievement for today. Emotional exchanges without any concrete plan after a bad news is norm here. Look at the past few bulletins. Let us do gandhigiri, let us do flower campaign, let us do rally, questiion is WHAT WE REALLY DO not "LET US".

    Five letter word: U N I T Y





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  • life99f
    06-27 12:25 PM
    I just asked my attorney this morning. She thinks it is possible. She got a
    note reagrading the EB-3 category two weeks ago...

    ===>EB-3 Other Worker Visa Availability Update posted Jun. 15, 2007

    USCIS has informed AILA Liaison that the State Dept. has advised that the EB
    -3 Other Worker category has been exhausted. USCIS HQ has informed the TSC
    and the NSC to reject EB-3 Other Worker adjustment applications even though
    the June Visa Bulletin shows visa availability. AILA believes this
    instruction is contrary to 8 CFR 245.1(g)(1) and has raised the issue with
    USCIS HQ. Watch InfoNet for further developments.



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  • gdilla
    05-11 12:21 PM
    A pdf of a comparative analysis of Canadian taxes. A little dated, but still more accurate than a lot of info posted here.





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  • Legal
    07-22 09:38 AM
    USCIS TRYING ITS BEST, with the available resources, TO KEEP THE EMPLOYMENT BASED CATEGORY IN SHAPE.

    BUT THE REASON FOR ALL THIS MESS IS ITS WORKING WITH DECADES OLD IMMIGRATION RULES and WITH a HUGE DEMAND OF EB VISAS FROM A VERY FEW COUNTRIES.

    THE MESS IS WITH THE IMMIGRATION RULES, WHICH ARE WRITTEN DECADES BACK (MAY BE AT THAT TIME THE LAW MAKERS MIGHT NOT HAVE ASSUMED THE EB DEMAND WOULD BE FROM A FEW COUNTRIES LIKE INDIA and CHINA), BUT NOT WITH THE USCIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    TIME is REACHED FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM.


    vdlrao,
    I totally agree with this. They have been trying hard to do the right thing WITHIN THE LIMITS OF CURRENT LAWS and be fair as much as possible.

    Do you agree with my statement there are 40k numbers available for EB which should be used up before Sep 30th? 20,000 each in August and September. And I bet that's what they are planning to do. I realize this could be wishful thinking . But everything points to that direction. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.



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  • dilipcr
    06-16 03:41 PM
    Nice well thought out arguments. This is the essence of a healthy debate.

    Dilip -

    Could you please respond to questions raised in my post, when you get a chance?


    I would like to add one more thing here - Employment based immigration is not merit based, it is driven by employer-employment unless you self-petition in Eb1/Eb2.

    For the most part it is if it were left to market forces. Employers, rationally, would only want as much as talent for the price they pay. Most importantly, employers would be willing to go the extra mile to sponsor green cards only if they perceive that the immigrant employee would add value both in the present and the future. Now again, when I say employers, I mean the genuine employers and not the fly by night consulting body shops or the outsourcing companies. I strongly believe that EB based GC for a very large part is built on merit. You may see sme cases wherein some ordinary people getting green cards. They, in my opinion , are mostly from these body shops who got "lucky". Cant believe I am using that word !!!.

    You may be very much qualified, if there is no employer who is ready to sponsor your green card, you are out of luck, so please do not put argument that only best and qualified people get GC.

    Employers will be restricted in applying for GC for very qualified employees only in the period of recession. This happened with companies like CSCO etc in2001. wherein many of my friends left the company because cisco was barred from applying for GC after mass layoffs. But then after a year or so they started applying again. If you are referring to such scenarios, I would recommend patience because the immigrant per se is extremely well talented.

    I don't think it matters, but I am from college based in Kharagpur WB.

    In my opinion it does not. But be careful in this forum though. People may view your statement as egotistic.
    Have a good day!




    Where did you get that 80k number? You think 80k is good salary for that job, someone else may say 65k, I may say 90k. The salary, among other things, is determined by market forces. If you can't find enough people with xyz then company will be forced to offer more.

    As long as there are people who are ready to work on salary 52k (example), employer will not pay 70k. As long as employer is following all the legal requirements, no one can dictate salary for the job.

    I agree that the employer will pay the salary that is cosummate with the market. No well meaning employer will undercut to save a few pennies at the risk of losing out on quality.
    What if the market pay scales are distorted through pervasive fraud ? If you look at it from an employer's view, it gets murkier. Believe it or not, low cost always signal lower quality. Trust me this is marketing 101. Google low cost and the perceptive signals. It is truly tough for the employer to trust the low cost employee's skillset.

    Now the distortion comes into play when outsourcing companies flout rules and undercut the market through pervasive fraud. Like other industries such as manufacturing/agriculture etc, IT wages are destined to decline but not at this rate. The acceleration in the decline of wages is perpetuated by these scum outsourcing companies. If the decline in wages were let to decline at the speed of market, then it gives talented people time to upgrade skills or move to other industries without having to sacrifice quality of living. So per your argument, yes the end employer is following the rules by employing people from the outsourcing company because the employer does not know or looks the other way of the outsourcing company commiting pervasive fraud. Oh BTW that 80K number was just to highlight that the L1s should be paid high too. It was not based on any scientific or statistical evidence.


    I am a US citizen of Indian origin with background in Computer Science, Finance, and Business Laws. I have been in this country for 11+ years and I have seen so many changes in tech world. Nobody talks of sign-on bonus on H1B anymore. I am dot net architect and I am seeing lot of competition for jobs and this is causing downtrend pressure on salary. But, instead of, blaming someone else for the competition, I am taking it head on. We need to keep working on our skillset and employer will pay the salary. Like they say, for the right candidate salary is not a constraint.

    I agree with you on the above points. You are doing the right thing in not blaming others for the downtrend in salaries. However, you are fundamentally assuming that you would have enough time to upgrade and adapt. What if that assumption falls apart ? What if outsourcign companies hit your employer with people with your skillsets at abysmal prices through fraud ? Today many companies do not look into the long term but make short term decisions. They may prefer the loss in quality for the "immediate" cost savings. It may take time for them to realize their follies. In trading, they say that a trader needs to have enough juice to survive the market irrationality. In a similar vein, if you have the wherewithal to survive the employer's short term irrational decisions, then more power to you.

    Let us not forget our struggling days of H1. The least, we can do, is to encourage our fellow immigrants who are waiting for their green cards.

    That is exactly the reason I am here. I want to encourage the truly deserving. I dont know who the truly deserving are on this board. But they know themselves. My encouragement is for them is to ensure that they dont get bogged psychologically despite being immensely talented.

    .





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  • akred
    02-13 12:36 PM
    I think the US government wanted it this way.


    Yes. Racial exclusion and preference for European immigration has a long history in US immigration law.

    http://academic.udayton.edu/race/02rights/immigr09.htm



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  • meridiani.planum
    06-16 06:22 AM
    In summary, this retrogression is good in a way. The truly best and the brightest would still be employed until their turn for adjournment comes in.

    Easy for you to say when you are applying for your citizenship. You sir, are an idiot. And if you were really on H1 for as long as you claim, you are a mean idiot, no less.

    Retrogression is a scar on the face of EB immigration.

    Thats the reason every immigration bill so far related to EB has tried to resolve this issue. Anyone who says retrogression is good is either misinformed or a pychopathic specimen that needs instant mental evaluation, followed by treatment and observation in an asylum. The observation should continue for as long as it takes a typical EB3-India case to get approved. To paraphrase your quote: "The truly cured would still be observed until their turn for release comes"





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  • the_googly
    07-29 09:33 AM
    I expect 1/2 of the approvals to be EB2-I and the rest EB2-C.



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  • unitednations
    02-18 10:15 PM
    I understand that there is concern about people from visitor visa category (Tourist B1 B2)would be filing for green cards and that shall cause the retrogression to be perpetual...a few adjustments to the applicable statute can rectify that...

    Yes, it can't be blanket filing. If there is a time limit to it; or a restriction that it can only be done from H-1b visa then it would take care of this issue if the priority date isn't current.

    However, the e-mail I posted a few posts back would not prevent that person because their priority date would be current; they could also go for consular route since date is current.





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  • chanduv23
    07-04 11:43 AM
    I am writing this letter to Mr Obama who is front runner for President's office in next year election. I tried to be simple and direct. Pls let me know if you have any suggestions. I will also talk to his office tomorrow. Pls let me know if you find anything irrelevant.

    -----------------------------------------------------

    Dear Senator,
    I am legal resident alien working in USA on H1B Visa. I am waiting in queue for my Green Card.

    The way process works is my employer applies for Labor certification. Once it is approved by Department of Labor I file for I-140 and I-485 which is last step to adjustment of status and gives me Green Card. I rely on Department of State (DOS) for visa dates to file I-485. When I move to this stage, I bear expenses close to $3000 for completing application process itself.

    Recently on 13 June 2007, DOS issued Visa Bulletin (VB) stating that all visa dates are current for (almost) all employment based immigrant categories. Since this is the only information me and my employer rely to start application for I-485, we started the process. We collected all documents, took medical examinations, paid attorney fees and got the document ready to be sent over, as was expected by DOS and USCIS as part of the process. I am not going into details of the hard works, sleepless nights, leaves from work and expenses as part of this effort.

    When my employer was about to send this package to USCIS, DOS came out with revised Visa Bulletin. In this they revised the earlier Visa date availability. USCIS followed the suit and decided to reject all applications, which they by their 13 June 2007 proclamations were ready to accept. This might be trivial thing for DOS and USCIS but not for me and thousands like me. This action of USCIS has no precedence. That is against its (USCIS) regular processes and guidelines and smacks of disrespect for its own procedures, guidelines and we immigrants, who rely on it.

    This is not just emotional trauma for me and my fellow immigrants but a major financial loss worth $3000/per person applying.

    In the end, my question to US Congressmen, USCIS and DOS is who is looking at impact to us? Were we wrong when we followed DOS Visa Bulletin on 13 June 2007? If not, why we should bear the financial and other losses? We are legal, law abiding residents. Does being good residents make our trials and tribulations meaningless and irrelevant for laws and departments of USA? To me it sounds unfair and unjust. Please let me know your thoughts and what you can do to alleviate my trust on American Immigration System and Departments devoted for that.

    Dear Senator,
    I look upon you as Future President of United States of America and will be very glad to receive your reply on this issue.


    Thanking you,


    Yours sincerely,



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    thank you guys and keep up your efforts without losing your cool and of course without losing your hopes.


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  • vivekm1309
    07-23 01:48 PM
    I agree, I read all the posts and went through some figures myself, the indication is that dates for EB2 will move much faster that we had all anticipated in the past. I do somewhere agree with my friend vldrao that dates could retrogress for a small period of time (say 1 month), but eventually dates will become current soon.


    Thanks:)
    vdlrao is everyone's friend these days ...not only urs ... :-)





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  • we_r_d_world
    03-27 05:07 PM
    Love to see narendra modi as PM but I know that's far from happening. I would bet on LK for now.

    NaMo will certainly CHANGE India for sure in a positive way in all aspects. In my opinion, he has another 10 more years to go before he becomes PM. I have very high hopes for him.

    A politically active friend once told me (The quote touched me very much), if NaMo manages to stay alive for another 10-15 years, he will certainly be PM of India and that will be the start of India returning to golden ages.





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  • andy garcia
    02-12 09:30 PM
    Agreed this is discrimination, what stops us from fighting this discrimination using legal class action lawsuit? Is it the money required or did a lawsuit fail earlier that inhibits us to file class action lawsuit?

    It is the law. You can try to sue congress.

    INA: ACT 202 - NUMERICAL LIMITATION TO ANY SINGLE FOREIGN STATE
    (a) Per Country Level. -

    (1) Nondiscrimination. -

    (A) Except as specifically provided in paragraph (2) no person shall receive any preference or priority or be discriminated against in the issuance of an IV because of the person's race, sex, nationality, place of birth, or place of residence.

    (B) Nothing in this paragraph shall be construed to limit the authority of the Secretary of State to determine the procedures for the processing of IV applications or the locations where such applications will be processed.

    (2) Per country levels for family-sponsored and employment-based immigrants. - Subject to 1a/ paragraphs (3), (4), and (5) the total number of IVs made available to natives of any single foreign state or dependent area under subsections (a) and (b) of section 203 in any FY may not exceed 7 percent (in the case of a single foreign state) or 2 percent (in the case of a dependent area) of the total number of such visas made available under such subsections in that fiscal year.

    (3) Exception if additional visas available. - If because of the application of paragraph (2) with respect to one or more foreign states or dependent areas, the total number of visas available under both subsections (a) and (b) of section 203 for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who otherwise may be issued such a visa, paragraph (2) shall not apply to visas made available to such states or areas during the remainder of such calendar quarter.





    Macaca
    06-26 07:54 PM
    The assessment is correct. The Visa Bulletin is published by the 15th. of every month by DOS. So, by July 15, whatever number of applications, USCIS receives, they have to count them and send the numbers to DOS. DOS then have to do their math and come up with August 2007 numbers, but August 2007 Visa Bulletin has to be published by July 15.

    DOS allocates GC numbers to USCIS adjustment cases only as the point of approval is reached. DOS can set/move/retrogress PD based on info provided by USCIS about number of cases at point of approval.
    USCIS is not able to provide a good estimate of this number because

    it can not calculate this number based on USCISs workload, and
    it does not know the number of cases DOL will send to them. DOL again can not calculate the number of cases (it will send to USCIS) based on DOLs worload.


    The following are from page 35 and beginning of page 36

    The key to addressing this management issue at USCIS is to understand the dynamic interplay of priority dates and shifting workloads of three departments, and to know with greater precision and accuracy the size and details of USCIS� workloads.
    The tri-agency meetings seek to expand inter-agency communication regarding expected new demands and surges, workflows, and priority dates. During the meetings, there is an examination of the case management systems and data collection processes used to assess workflows through each entity, particularly USCIS.
    Although USCIS stated in its 2006 Annual Report Response (at p. 8) that it provides detailed data to DOS, the tri-agency group identified gaps in USCIS� data.





    Sakthisagar
    06-11 09:37 AM
    Why are you so worried? Dont be scared, make enough money and dont make silly financial decision. You can take your kitty back if push comes to shove. Economies in India and China are booming and you wont die hungry. I guarantee you that.

    Economies in India and China are booming??? booming accroding to their economies not definitely competing with USA what is the value of 1 Indian Rupee in US dollars. just simply dont air some tactics around. As long as 22 Political parties rule India na each one having different agenda Forget about India becoming a developed country.

    And don't dump USA as just like that it is also one of the Biggest and Greatest economy in the world, Still till this moment Dollar Rules. full stop.



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