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  • waitingmygc
    01-14 12:43 AM
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  • ujjwal_p
    05-11 07:03 PM
    Remember, you are doing this to potentially ditch India and to change your nationality and are going to take oath


    Wrong! Stop assuming dude. People are here because they need the Green Card. We don't take an oath to renounce loyalties when we get it. Of course your intention is clear and I am thankful that we Indians don't need to count on you. Of course, its interesting that you are quite happy being a US Citizen when it's the US which has called the LTTE a terrorist organization. Hmm, I hope you did your research. Anyway, too late. We don't need you anymore in India and like I said earlier, good riddance. All the best!





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  • unitednations
    02-18 09:59 PM
    Aiming London shooting Tokyo that's what your reasoning looks like. There's no point in arguing\discussing based on such logic.

    You are not a messenger, you are a opponent of 485 measure, I think there is a big and clear difference between both.

    If 485 measure is not of much help, I wonder why all the poeple who have applied for 485 keep wasting there time and money renewing there EAD every year.


    Please lay out why they should allow 485 filing that is in USA benefit and the employer who is sponsoring you benefit. Employment base is not a humanitarian base greencard.

    I will list the reasons people use and then the arguments people would use against you and then you can counter it.

    1) 485 filing will allow me to change my job or get promoted and I won't be tied to my employer

    ----it is employer base system. you are supposed to work with them permanently. nothing in the law stops you from changing employers. Just get them to file another h-1b for you; get the new employer or position to file another labor for you.

    ----but the new employer I have won't file greencard or h-1b/

    ----looks like they don't need a foreigner. if they did then they would do it for you wouldnt they?

    ----i want to go back to school.

    ----get an f-1

    -----the uncertainty is killing me

    -----lucky you are allowed to stay here and wait and work. others have to wait outside usa until their number is called. you can go back home and wait for your number to get called - like spouses of greencard holders; siblings of u.s. citizens; over 21 year old children of u.s. citizens.

    -----I want to change to a totally new profession

    -----You are getting a greencard because a specific employer needs you on a permanent basis don't they? Looks like you don't have intention to work permanently for them. Nothing is stopping another employer to file a greencard for you.

    ----but i can't work for them because the job won't qualify for h-1b and they won't wait five years for the quota to get current to employ me.

    -----how come employers aren't lobbying for you? if they have to wait 5 years for you then why are we not hearing from them?

    2) I want my spouse to work. they are underutilized.

    ---- Did you know that it is a non working visa? EB greencard is to control the number of workers coming into the workforce and to not flood the market


    3) the intention of ac21 was to be free and clear of your employer after 180 days of filing.

    -------no, not really; once your number comes up and it is in the quota and we don't adjudicate it within 180 days then you can change. We still need to control the workforce and determine how many people we want to let in.
    =========================================

    One thing everyone loses sight of is that EB greencard is not humanitarian greencard. It is specific to an employer. One way to look at it is that you are not underprivileged because you are allowed to stay here and work and wait whereas other immigrant wannabes do not have that luxury.

    Now before people start raning; you need to figure out how it is in the country and employer benefit for you to get the greencard or file a 485. Your reasons cannot be against the nature and purpose of employment base greencard. If it is then it doesn't have much merit within the current law.





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  • logiclife
    06-28 05:51 PM
    Does someone know what date in June they started turning back EB3-Other WOrkers?

    That was 5th June as per Oh's website and Oh's website was quoting AILA's memo.



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  • Jaime
    05-14 12:47 AM
    RE: Jaime,
    Well, I am not sure of your reason..but whatever, if you are serious, then join any major tech company in US, and ask them to relocate to India.Cisco,Intel,Sun Microsystems, Accenture,Citibank etc. are always on look out for expatriate.
    If you won't join tech company,and explore for direct employment then max pay you might get is Rs 15 Lakh per annum. or 15,000,00.
    If you are an airline pilot,you will be welcome by open arms.Aviation sector is facing huge shortage.

    Dear Vikki, your words are like cool balm over a bad bruise, thank you! About the 15,000 per year, do you mean that's 15,000 Rupees or US dollars? Either way, I can save in other things, such as utilities and charitable contributions. The mai thing right now is to get into India, but it will have to be in a non-tech capacity (any other suggestions? I am not an airline pilot either, I am looking for a maketing/business role)

    Vikki, do you have the fax number of the MHA in New Dehli? I'll be forever indebted to you. Thank you so much again!





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  • ryan
    08-17 01:56 PM
    Why do you think he is talentless? Just because he is not an ivy league or not a doctor? He is extremely talented. .

    Due respect Chanduv23 - I believe there are a million and more who've done better and fought tougher battles. I'd think some of them are here on this very forum. I may not have had an opportunity to grow up in India - however, I'm pretty sure - in fact quite certain, the sort of b'wood trash dished out, is nothing representative of Indian culture and ways of life. Most of the stuff encourages ills of American pop culture and feels desperate to the point of being foolish wannabees - and you know what's really sad -- that people from a nation with such incredibly history & culture need the feel to ape ills of American pop culture and the likes. As for Shahrook Khan - the man CAN'T act - unless you think some sort of speech disability, lip-synching songs (sung by folks with actual talent) and running around foolish women in skirts is talent and form art?! I wish the admins would remove the silly post from the forum.



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  • PlainSpeak
    01-14 05:20 PM
    You have a valid point about the DV visa bil.. But you forgot one thing, Any immigration bill altering INA will also have recapture attached to it..
    One more point it takes 15K to give a paper ad to say that IV supports this bill.. Do you want to run a campaign for this?? I will convince IV Core if you come even close to that $ number...
    If and when this bill goes for voting on the floor, I think your valid point about giving these immigrant visas to the oldest applicants first until current backlog is eliminated can be considered as a viable amendment/feedback to lawmakers..
    But I wouldn't hold my breath for that day...

    To VBKris77

    Now THATS what i call a solid arguing point and THATS what i call a discussion
    VBKris77 - Please do not think that i am being patronising when i stated what i did above, but all my efforts and abuse taking till now were for this point of time and this reply to my inital post. Infact i was looking for someone to start something in this vein and had to wait till now. Now my faith in my fellow men has been justified (I know that was a bit melodramatic but hey after all the abuses i went through i think i can be just that bit wet in the eyes). You sir have hit the nail on the head. Now when i see your reply i got more questions. If you can clarify this for me i would appreciate it or If you know of any location on this forum where i can look see and get self educated that would be appreciated too

    You have a valid point about the DV visa bil.. But you forgot one thing, Any immigration bill
    altering INA will also have recapture attached to it..
    My point about DV visa to most badly retrograded apps was because they have been the ones who have waited the longest out here. Now if this was recapture or removing country quota i would feel that the regular allocation would be correct. Since this is a one off my peronal feeling was that we could direct the spillover to extra retrograded apps and get some relief there

    My question are -
    Would DV visa to Employment based in any form be considered as an immigration bill
    - What is altering INA
    - So if the DV bill be considered as an immigration bill the idea of IV is that if we can get this into a law the implementation of the 50 k visas will be in the same way as the implementation of recapture bill (So that would be all spill over to EB2 till EB2 is current and then to EB3- And please that was a question for clarification not a jibe as some of the people out here would make it to be).

    One more point it takes 15K to give a paper ad to say that IV supports this bill.. Do you want to run a campaign for this?? I will convince IV Core if you come even close to that $ number...
    Ok to get this straight the money needs to be collected (Campaign is run) and the amount of 15 k be collected before IV will support the campaign. Just getting things in right perspective.

    Tell me something please, would a campaign involve asking every one who comes in to IV forum for donations for the campaign. The reason i ask is because to run a campaign for this effort is a great idea and I have some thoughts on it but most importantly i would need the help of all the members EB2/EB3 (yes even the ones who abused me) because you guys have experience in it.

    My opinion is that if we run a campaign it would have to be with a slogan that if and only if this bill gets passed the DV visas will fall to the badly retrogressed apps first. If we say that the regular recapture way wil be implemented then i think this campaign is a dead duck before even starting.

    I have an idea which might or might not work but i feel that IV needs to start a disclaimer for any campaign which will state that this is the path to be taken (and of course stick with the path) and state that X % is the chance of success and that these specific situations have to occurr for any chance of the bill succeding, I mean like a flow chart and also specific tasks which have to be done by people willing to participate in the campaign. Now i do not know if you (And only you because you talk sense. If any body else want to comment with logic and way to improve they are welcome. Abusers wil be ignored) have got the sense of what i am saying but as a person who is looking at IV from the outside everything i have proposed above is based on certain hard facts which are formed as a result of my deductions by observing IV all these years

    For a campaign
    1. Please do not try and educate a person out here because when you do you gets very high handed. Provide them a tool (Flow charts and all i talked about before) and direct them to a location where they have access to the tool and let them form an opinion based on their self education. That way they will understand what are the 1000's of steps involved in this effort. This will lead to the fact that since the are self educated they know the risk and the percent of success or failure of the effort and when they participate they are fully aware of what are the stakes involved. This also gets to convert all the people out there (to the ones above) who are under the impression that giving money to IV will get the job done and when the job does not get done they start feeling that IV has cheated them and start making assumptions.

    I know that part of what i said will look a lot like what IV was doing. Yes IV when it started was like that but somehow over the years it has become very intolerent and as some members have stated very abusive senior memebers which is very shocking. A personal effort by each and every member of IV to show civilized behaviour and make civilized conversation is a mandatory requirement. In fact (i know i wil get laughed at and ridiculed for this but) a post by each and every donor and senior member taking an oath that no matter what the provocation they will not abuse anyone on the forum will be the first step. This can also be part of new member sign up. And of course IV has the tool in hand to delete any thread they think is determental to their cause so no issues there but i would suggest making an extra effort to find out what the idea behind the person is before deleting the thread.

    If and when this bill goes for voting on the floor, I think your valid point about giving these
    immigrant visas to the oldest applicants first until current backlog is eliminated can be
    considered as a viable amendment/feedback to lawmakers..

    Ok now i am lost. What is the objective of the campaign
    1. Add the provisions to the bill
    OR
    2. Make sure that the bill passes

    Because they are both 2 different things and that brings me to my next point which is clarity of campaign (includingLetters to law makers/ donations etc). Calrity is very important here. There has been a kind of secrecy in IV which is cause of much pain and disturst. Of course i understand why the secrecy was put in first place. It must have been because of all the anti immigrants lurking around but when you think about it if the members are self educated (Like how i stated above) there is no need to inform any updates to them and hence there would be no need for secrecy. A donor forum will of
    course continue as is because some things need to be discussed.

    But I wouldn't hold my breath for that day...
    Sir i never held my breath for this ever. Even though i am not part of IV i am aware of all the probability of success in such endevors
    It was nice discussing the above with you.





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  • msp1976
    02-13 03:42 PM
    If they changed the law to have 300,000 visas but there is 400,000 people going for greencard; then there would still be retrogression. The unused visas from ROW would not get allocated quarterly but in the fourth quarter.

    Out of those 400K ....200K happen to be India/China...

    Today's projection for me EB3/India is 7-10 years to get GC....
    with a higher number this would come doen to 2 years ( would it ???)..That is the whole game...EB3 India might not become current but at least EB3 ROW would be current and then the spillover would make EB3 India picture much better....

    Also AC21 allows the spillover to happen quarterly rather than annully...not in the fourth quarter..( Please correct me if I am wrong..)

    Reference
    http://www.fourmilab.ch/uscode/8usc/www/t8-12-II-I-1152.html#_a_
    Look at a(3)

    (3) Exception if additional visas available
    If because of the application of paragraph (2) with respect to one or more foreign states or dependent areas, the total number of visas available under both subsections (a) and (b) of section 1153 of this title for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who otherwise may be issued such a visa, paragraph (2) shall not apply to visas made available to such states or areas during the remainder of such calendar quarter.



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  • sargon
    04-01 12:36 PM
    3. Your dedication is appreciated regarding immigration issues. Please don't go away. I see you as a valuable asset in group.

    Do you mean to say, he is the comic relief in our grim and gritty journey towards GC?





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  • cps060
    04-04 10:31 AM
    hello bobzibub,

    great to see someone welcoming immigrants. My wife is a dentist, licensed in one state of the USA. However she does not have a US DDS. She was licensed by the state as she has great experience and she passed all the tests needed. She has been very well practising dentistry for almost 2.5-3 years now in the US. However, Canada does not let internationally trained dentists get licensed without going to Canadian/American dental school. If you know of any place in CA which would license my wife as she has more than 7 years of exp (4+in India, alomst 3 in USA) and had passed all exams (Board, licensing etc etc), please let me know. That is the single most imp reason for me to still hang im here.

    As a Canuck:
    It is an honor that you folks choose my country to live in.
    Temporarily, or permanent, I hope it works out.
    Every country has its warts. (Mine has them too) but the immigrants to a country are what give it life.

    For the Doctors, check out some rural areas various provinces. I think they have programs that ease the regulatory burden.

    Welcome!
    -b



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  • alisa
    02-13 07:09 PM
    Man this is complicated. I agree with you.

    Any changes to the law have to be beneficial to all three IV constituents, i.e. EB-3 ROW, EB-2 India and EB-3 India.

    This is not a legal issue. And this is not an issue of morality.
    This is a political issue, and like all political issues, it involves self-interests of different groups. Those different groups have to come together, agree upon a common denominator, and work towards a common goal.

    As an example, all indications are that this summer, our fate would be tied with that of CIR. Core group would be working to make sure that laws beneficial to us are passed. However, we will have to work with the illegal aliens and try to get CIR passed. Its not fair that they have been here illegally, while we have been here legally. But it doesn't matter whats fair and what is not.

    What matters is that we got to work with them to achieve a common goal (CIR.) Likewise, the three constituents of this forum have to work together to achieve a common goal (relief for all.)

    Lets see how long it takes before I have to reiterate this point. The clock starts now.

    (a) INA 202(a)(3) states that the total number of visas available under both subsections (a) and (b) [...] exceeds the number of qualified immigrants [...] (2) shall not apply [...]. In your case, there are no excess visas available for FB immigrants.

    (b) INA 202(e) Special Rules for Countries at Ceiling. requires that additional visas are distributed according to the world-wide distribution across FB and EB categories. Of the 100 unused visas 77 would have to be alloted to FB, and only 22 to EB categories. Assuming a 1/3 distribution in EB categories EB1, EB2, EB3, 7 would go to EB2.

    If USCIS cannot follow this rule, those 100 visas would be unused for that fiscal year.

    With AC21, the 100 can be assigned to oversubscribed countries, if Visas are available, ie. demand in all categories is less than supply. With EB3-ROW retrogressed, that is not the case.

    Just the way I see it....





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  • vkrishn
    07-28 03:16 AM
    Can't make a a statement without getting personal eh? and people are getting under your skin..:D.. no wonder you can take the fact.. and probably the only thing you learnt from being in the Amway gang is to make these rants.. I am much better off than the begging the Amway guys (or rather WIMPS) do and get behind us everywhere so that they can show us how to become millioinaires..What a joke! :D


    Sure with dead bobhead braincells of yours, nobody expects your self image to be high enough. Its not for wimps wearing zippers to the side like you. If you are man enough come and talk to me, and will see who gets handcuffed.



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  • gc4me
    03-28 02:37 PM
    Looks like we have 45 days after the rule goes in effect. Please read the following text.
    Will you please tell us which text you are refering to?


    (b) Expiration of labor certifications. For certifications
    resulting from applications filed under this regulation and the
    regulation in effect prior to March 28, 2005:
    (1) An approved permanent labor certification granted on or after
    [effective date of the final rule] expires if not filed in support of a
    petition with the Department of Homeland Security within 45 calendar
    days of the date the Department of Labor granted the certification.
    (2) An approved permanent labor certification granted before
    [effective date of the final rule] expires if not filed in support of a
    petition with the Department of Homeland Security within 45 calendar
    days of [effective date of the final rule].
    (c) Scope of validity. For certifications resulting from
    applications filed under this regulation and the regulation in effect
    prior to March 28, 2005:
    (1) A permanent labor certification for a Schedule A occupation or
    sheepherders is valid only for the occupation set forth on the
    Application for Alien Employment Certification (ETA Form 750) or the
    Application for Permanent Employment Certification (ETA Form 9089) and
    only for the alien named on the original application, unless a
    substitution was approved prior to [effective date of the final rule].
    The certification is valid throughout the United States unless the
    certification contains a geographic limitation.
    (2) A permanent labor certification involving a specific job offer
    is valid only for the particular job opportunity, the alien named on
    the original application (unless a substitution was approved prior to
    [effective date of the final rule]), and the area of intended
    employment stated on the Application for Alien Employment Certification
    (ETA Form 750) or the Application for Permanent Employment
    Certification (ETA Form 9089).


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  • ItIsNotFunny
    06-05 02:56 PM
    Recently I was on a flight from Delhi to Mumbai and the guy next to me was a former RBI employee. I asked him as to why the Indian govt. is not doing anything about the billions of USD left behind by Indians returning to India in the form of SSA and Medicare taxes, to which he replied that the obstacle to a treaty as stated by the US govt. is that India does not have a system comparable to Soc. Security and Medicare for distribution of money to it's retirees.
    Such a pact was apparently considered in 2006, but went nowhere due to disagreement about how the Indian govt. will track money distribution and administer the program.

    There is already a thread working on Government of India to consolidate Pension Fund with Social Security. America already has this type of treaties with few european countries. But looking at the bereaucracy now, this may take next 10-15 years.



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  • Keeme
    03-30 06:52 PM
    Gandhi Family has changed their strategy since many years and they have a great success in doing so, turning their family from 'king' to 'King maker'. We wouldn't see any claim by Rahul to be PM in near future. Its a smart strategy. In early '90s, majority of people across the country hated them more than they hated the party, allowing BJP/local regional parties to emerge and fill vacuum created by Congress. Now see how the strategy is working for them, they would be in power again. Personally I like both Sonia and Rahul, can't doubt their intension of making India better

    I don't know if there will be an another wave for BJP like the year of 2000 ( half of the seat they got from UP) . Adding new geographical areas for them is getting tougher now as local regional parties are much stronger than they used to be. Congress has a high chances of emerging as single largest party and getting support from SP/Lalu/NCP/ AIDMK / Lefties / RDP to reach magic no of 272.

    You wouldn't belive if you hear how negotiations take palce for key portfolios of Govt., after election.

    I don't know whom to blame for it but would like to ask some questions -

    Do you know how much money Indians Politician have in Swiss bank ?
    Do you wonder why didn't have any choice for cars before late 90s ?
    Do you know why your cousin/father/ neighbor had to pay a 'premium' for getting a Bajaj Scooter in 70s and 80s ? BTW the premium used to be much more higher than scooter price.
    Do you know why we still talk about Polio vaccination in India and half of India's population doesn't have clean drinking water or 24 X7 electricity ? Have you seen a family pulling a cart of half ton at noon on 42 c summer day and getting paid 50/100 rupees ?

    Business Mafias ran our country. Every Central Govt. strategy was controlled/decided by them, still does.

    As recently Narendra Modi said in Nasik that real credit for getting Oscars for Slum Dog Millionaire should go to Congress.

    Can't blame everything to Congress but they have played big role in it.

    At last, Do you wonder why we have IV.org ?





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  • Ramba
    03-30 02:04 PM
    The most of the guys posting in this thread is not going to vote. Even I think, we all do not have our names in electoral list. There is no sense in arguing who is best or who should be next PM, sitting in US. Furthermore, most of the educated, urban voters will never go to polling booth in hot summer to stand in line to do their duty as a citizen.. Indian�s election of their representatives is fundamentally a show of money and muscle power. Election in India is just a business. It is just investment of money by political parties with the help of capitalists and their lobbyist to get the vote from rural, uneducated, divided voters across the nation. All parties are corruptive, communal, divisive, plays vote bank politics. No exceptions! (whether it is Congress, BJP, communists, BSP, SP, and countless regional parties). One thing I can say or compare about Congress and BJP. Congress is the only party has responsible for bringing both good (economy, growth, education,) and bad (corruption and countless other) thing to India. BJP has not done any good thing to India sofar, only it brought bad things to India (divisive, corruption).

    My input regarding comparison of Manmohan and Advani.

    Manmohan.

    Though, he is not a full time politician, and not a good crowd pulling speaker, he has strong record. He has quietly achieved lot as a RBI governor; FM and PM. US nuclear agreement is a big achievement in his career, despite he had a minority government with the strong left opposition. He does not have long term independent vision, and strong leadership skills. He was widely accepted by all part of the country, as he has no controversial issues.

    Advani,

    He is a good speaker, crowd puller. He is a typical Indian politician. He has leadership skills. He does not have any significant record/achievement to back his claim for PM (either as a ex-minister or politician). For example, he has not done anything to improve the national security when he was a union home minister. He has involved in controversial issue like Babri Majit, and Ram temple issue. He also does not have long term vision, ideas on economy, poverty elimination etc..



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  • srikondoji
    12-16 08:38 AM
    I hope this is not our last ditch effort or one of the last chips in our possession to further our goals of Greencard.

    The crisis in united states is not just housing bubble but much more than that. I am not sure if this initiative (linking greencard and purchasing home) will find much traction in government or in medai given the complexity of the mess.
    The currency collapse which we used to discuss is now gathering storm now. The recent runnup in Dollar is peaking now and is in downward trend. Analysts are already up in arms arguing that United states have to take massive debt (assuming China and arab world is ready to give) or they have to print currency to finance their bailouts.

    --sri





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  • _TrueFacts
    09-04 11:05 AM
    IV admins, Chandu,

    Please delete this thread or move this away from the main page.
    This thread is a good fodder for antis.

    Deleting this thread does not change the facts nor does IMV will gain anything out of it. The reason we even discuss these things here other than immigration is because we have immigrated and we have a common bonding.





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  • mbawa2574
    02-15 07:18 PM
    That's taking it a bit too far, I might disagree on most of the things ROW people say but I am not here to make enemies. I have waited and I do not want others also to wait, I just want everybody (including ROW people) to get out of this mess as fast as possible.

    IV stands for unity . Discriminatory laws that make ROW vs MICP should be teared down. IV represents all nationalities. That's what makes America "Melting Pot". I am happy for people whose dates moved. Let's play together and make this system work for every skilled immigrant who goes through this GC process.





    jungalee43
    11-08 02:57 PM
    Sent e-mails to all the contacts. Immediately received some out-of-office auto replies. Looks like they would be out of office till Nov. 6 or Nov. 10.
    Next up, posting message on change.gov





    cinqsit
    01-15 02:37 PM
    I am surprised why H1bs are angry ? This memo will impact the body shop only . Why shed tears for these desis dallas ? There is no bottom-line for these Indian Dallas. Now USCIS has just said we will follow the rules and people are worried ? Why the desi IT companies have/will not follow the rules.Work directly for client or good consulting companies. I see this end of Body shopping model of business.

    I thought the same way as you did too. I am no fan of these job shop companies but remember some one will pay the price and face hardships I hope its just those companies not the employees. But the way things are if this gets effective employees can also get into a limbo - which I dont like - like say someone has gone for visa stamping and that gets denied or worst his/her family is still in the US - or something like that. Its true that the employee should try and look for a new job opportunity meeting new regulations but its not easy as it sounds.

    More important point to consider is that new rules/regulations the way I understand it were suddenly implemented mid-stream - you cant do that. What if in after some time they apply same regulations to say people on EAD and using AC21 (i am still not clear whether it already applies to EAD we will have to wait for legal experts to comment) ? Or worse yet they come up with new regulations for people who already have their GC's approved ?

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