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  • LegalIndianInUSA
    08-02 11:43 PM
    Although they promise a lot of things on paper, we generally skip reading the fine print. Fine print generally would include this clause (language will be a bit different)...
    "Although these are our policies, these might change at any time, with or without written notice".
    End of story to all 'You promised me gold in your agreement' arguments.


    There was no fine print on the appointment letter. There wasn't even fuzzy wording (like "we may" or "in most circumstances" etc).
    Although I'm clearly educated about how the system works now, back then, at age 24, I wasn't. I was foolish enough to trust and believe that they would keep their word; they are after all, big multinational companies.
    I don't want other young Indian/foreign immigrants to fall into the same predicament.
    The sooner they realize that Human Resources is the most inhuman department in a company, the better.


    Practically speaking, if you think from a company's perspective also, I don't blame them. Would you (Mr OP sir) be willing to invest in something that you are not sure that you will get profit from it? Like, you give me 100$, I may give it back+10%interest or may not give it back. If I want to give it back, I may give it back in 2yrs or even 30yrs, 100 yrs its upto me, depending on some citing of random comet I choose.
    Same thing in company's point of view, if they invest in endless lawyer fees, filing fees, humongous paperwork and easily these days GC process take 5-35 years and during/after this time, What is the guarantee that you will still stick with the company - after all this investment of time & money? Companies need visible & predictable ROIs.


    In large companies, the Legal department doesnt exist solely for GCs and Immigration related matters. The cost of immigration is barely a drop in the overall cost of maintaining such a department, and hence your logic is wrong.


    It is an unfortunate truth we all need to get accustomed to live with.

    No, we dont need to get accustomed to being lied to, or being treated as skilled slaves.
    If you side with the law and say that the companies are not obligated to process GCs, then they should not be offering the same. Also, the law as it currently stands, is unjust and I'd much sooner see the law be changed to something like "if you've worked here for 6 years, paid taxes etc, then you can apply for a GC yourself based on just that"


    I guess it is in our Indian blood to expect freebies/extra perks from government, from employers (being socialist, a bit communist country and what not), and we forget it is the FREE MARKET that rules here.

    lol. Firstly, there is no such thing as a "free market". Wake up already.
    Secondly, the US is more socialist than India is.
    Thirdly, A GC is not a freebie/extra perk. A GC is a good-faith agreement between the company, the future employee and the governing body(USCIS), and companies should understand the ethical meaning of "good faith".


    If your skills are in high demand, they will make you the king. If supply is high for your skills, they will go for someone cheaper..
    Yea sure, I'd like to see all the high skilled kings that have been made by companies.
    It is a fallacy that skill, intellect or IQ has meaning/importance in the US.
    At the end of the day, you are just another desk jockey.





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  • asharda
    07-05 04:12 PM
    Added my $100 towards our common dreams and goals! I still vote to keep this site free for everyone's benefit. Believe me ppl will come around..took me a while but as they say better late than never!

    IV you have our support! United we stand!

    Paypal Confirmation Number: 8GH00265XS5850731
    PD: Aug 04
    RD: ????


    Same here. Here's my small contribution in your big effort.

    Best regards,
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  • uma001
    07-29 01:50 PM
    I think you are talking out of frustration. Take your emotion out and think rationally. Why it takes 3-4 years for you to understand they are not going to start the GC process. Once its evident in 1-2 years they are giving all damn excesses...don�t you need to start looking for other opportunity. They might be ethically wrong but its not illegal. Again you are just venting your frustration.

    Yup, I tried...it happened once, why cant it happened twice or thrice. No gaurantee.





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  • pitha
    06-30 09:30 PM
    my attorney says even if you send it today to be delivered on Monday July 2 USCIS might also reject cases delivered on july 2, if visa bulleten is revised on july 2. does anybody have any idea what USCIS did for others workers category, did they reject cases filed after June 5 or reject from June 5 itself (I believe June 5 was the date when DOS said they retrogressed)



    My company has just told all employees that became current and were planning on filing in July that the historical revision is VERY likely to happen on Monday or Tuesday. If you have the I-485 documents in your hand SEND THEM NOW!
    If not (my case, my lawyer is still getting them ready), hold tight and see what happens. I swear that if USCIS screws me (and thousands more) next week I will join a class-action lawsuit against USCIS. This is outrageous, I couldn't believe the news when I heard it. I just hope it's wrong but even Murphy's site says it's 95-98% likely.
    Our stress, frustration, wasted time and money will cost them dearly if they attempt this travesty.



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  • ajay
    04-13 10:12 AM
    A very useful piece of information has been brought to our attention by shiankuraaf.
    Thank you very much!

    http://www.dhs.gov/ximgtn/statistics/publications/LPR08.shtm

    Table 6 Persons Obtaining Legal Permanent Resident Status by Type and Major Class of Admission: Fiscal Years 1999 to 2008

    http://www.dhs.gov/ximgtn/statistics/publications/YrBk04Im.shtm
    Table 4 Immigrants admitted by type and selected class of admission: fiscal years 1986-2004

    Employment-based preferences (Total Number)

    Year QUOTA ISSUED Unused/Excessively used
    1986 140000 56617 83383
    1987 140000 57519 82481
    1988 140000 58727 81273
    1989 140000 57741 82259
    1990 140000 58192 81808
    1991 140000 59525 80475
    1992 140000 116198 23802
    1993 140000 147012 -7012
    1994 140000 123291 16709
    1995 140000 85336 54664
    1996 140000 117499 22501
    1997 140000 90607 49393
    1998 140000 77517 62483
    1999 140000 56678 83322
    2000 140000 106642 33358
    2001 140000 178702 -38702
    2002 140000 173814 -33814
    2003 140000 81727 58273
    2004 140000 155330 -15330
    2005 140000 246877 -106877
    2006 140000 159081 -19081
    2007 140000 162176 -22176
    2008 140000 166511 -26511

    Sum total of the differences from 1986 to 2008: 626,681. Vow!!!

    So when looked between the period of 1986 and 2008,
    there were a total of 626,681 un-used visa numbers that can be re-captured.

    This is based on the BIG assumption that the yearly quota for EB categories is 140,000 from 1986 to 2008.
    Does anybody know how to verify this important assumption online --a link to a gov website perhaps?

    It would be good to verify when the law specifying 140,000 visa numbers per year was passed and
    what were the criteria for visa number usage prior to the existence of the law.
    It is clearly a well prepared format and nobody has brought this kind of helpful information to our group. We would need people like you and I am sure I will also support this if we are aggressively pursuing it. But again as somebody here said in this discussion that we should be careful about the seriousness of the situation being counted by the lawmakers.
    Kudos to you.





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  • Aah_GC
    05-28 04:03 PM
    Finally after 6 years, its my turn to report. Online is NOT updated but when I called NSC they informed that it was approved on 05/23/2008. They also informed me that it will take 6 business days to get the card(card ordered on 05/23/2008).

    Congratulations to you and family. Have lots of fun and a bright future ahead!



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  • GCStatus
    09-17 10:57 PM
    If you don't like my rant stop reading it. What the hell is 'born thinking america'. Why do you rant about GC then? Why do you care being on this board? You go get a life. I never compelled to comment on my rant? Did I? You must have gone crazy


    when did i rant..haha, its funny when people are cornered they talk stuff which arent even relevant

    you crack me up, no offence





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  • varshadas
    12-18 09:11 AM
    Hello Everyone,
    Can we have the conference call again on Wednesday, 12/20/2006 at 9.00 PM EDT. Also, let me know if you think its a good idea to create an NJ yahoo group so we can all get notified instead of checking back in here every now and then.

    Thanks,
    Varsha



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  • yawl
    08-15 04:16 PM
    D. EMPLOYMENT PREFERENCE VISA AVAILABILITY FOR SEPTEMBER

    Due to the return of unused July numbers by consular posts abroad, and the limited amount of pending demand eligible for final processing at consular posts, it has been possible to reestablish cut-off dates in many of the Employment preference categories.





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  • ajthakur
    07-14 06:09 PM
    I know I acted irresponsibly. Under the circumstances I had to. The person employing me was trying to use me for (something) for which my conscience didnt allow. So the decision to quit was best. I can't write all the circumstances here. I knew I could get into problems with immigration department for my irrational yet moral decision to quit company before 180 days. I think this problem with USCIS is far more acceptable than doing something for your employer that your heart doesnt allow you to.

    Of course, you know your problems best, but it was obviously irresponsible of you to quit before letting 180 days pass after applying for 485.

    Here is the problem. The letter of employment you send to CIS must have a start date which will expose your violation of the 180 day rule. So unless you lie here, you are likely in in trouble. Your best bet is to suck it up and return to your sponsoring employer. That will ensure your case 100%. Any other option is risky.

    Go to a knowledged attorney. Khanna, Murthy, Gotcher etc., are the names I know.



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  • grupak
    02-15 05:33 PM
    Look, I don't want to enter a pissing match with anyone here. Go read your history (http://americanhistory.suite101.com/article.cfm/limiting_the_huddled_masses) before jumping to conclusions.

    Supporting a law based on eugenics is very sad indeed.





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  • pray
    08-18 08:56 AM
    Pray, just an fyi - what I meant as nonsense is "not we talking abt predicting priority dates"..but you saying EB2s are clever than EB3s. Do you have any idea of what you are saying? The very fact that you are not able to understand what we are discussing here shows how much clever you are..

    Alright retro I'm sorry I upset you so much,it was not a remark which was meant to be taken seriously.I know there is no difference in intelligence between the two.Hope you will get cheered now and maybe drop in for a beer sometime.And I hope you get you green card soon too.



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  • abhishek101
    12-26 04:06 PM
    You have pretty much written my hit list. I could not have put it in better words.

    Just to add I work for a bank and to open an account within bank I had to go through a long paper process, whereas any outsider (Citizen/GC) can get it in 5 min online.

    But as a bank employee I do understand that while we at bank would love to open all accounts online (less cost and all) the US government has restrictions under Know your customer requirement, that prevents us from doing so. So while most of the business understand that they are losing business they are pretty much restricted by the laws of the land.

    there are two ways out of it:

    1. Support legislative action for getting GC faster, for that support IV.
    2. Make the immigrant group a huge economic success that the business has incentive to provide it better services.





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  • perm2gc
    01-05 08:30 PM
    Guys we had 115 new members today.It was great to see so many new members on the same day.It is all due to the hard work of many members.If we continue ,we will make our 10,000 mark

    Thank You



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  • singhsa3
    03-03 12:40 PM
    MSG TO THE NEWS MEDIA
    Please note that this site is visited by approximately 400-500 regular visitors daily. Though the sample size is here small but the idea is compelling and the potential is very real
    Some of the statistics can be found at http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/pdf/PERM_Data_FY07_Announcement.pdf


    Green card process overview:
    Stage 1: Labor Certification (or the PERM process) => Government scrutinize that qualified citizens are not available to perfom the "highly skilled" job.
    Stage 2: I-140 stage=> Government scrutnize that the person for which immigrant visa is sought is elligible and the company has ability to pay his salary
    Stage 3 : I-485 or Adjustment of status : Now the immigrant waits for the visa number to be available and adjust his status to that of a permanent resident.

    Most of us are in stage 3.


    We are stuck in stage 3 waiting because of very small immigration quota's that were set decades ago which are completely out of line with real supply-demand for the size of todays high-tech workforce. In addition USCIS inefficiency has resulted in them not utilizing even this tiny quota fully, in the past few years.
    Getting a mortgage is a lot easier if our immigration status is permanent. In this final stage of immigration most of us have work authorization that needs to be renewed every year, and mortgage/Finance companies dont accept that.

    Futher reading on our proposal to the government: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16506

    .

    MSG TO THE POLL PARTICIPANTS
    Objective of this poll:
    a) To assess if the idea has any strength
    b) Invite media attention to the issue
    c) Develop a task force to float this idea around.

    Folks, even if 10% of us ended up buying a house, that is 100,000 more buyers in the market.
    Some of us had their mortgage application rejected on the grounds that EAD is valid for only one year, even though their credit history, down payment, income stability are upto the mark.





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  • bigboy007
    06-11 11:11 AM
    See below what Anti Immigrants are doing. Each and everyone visits this site should sign what IV have given the link

    The following makes no sense it is utter non-sense.


    COMPANIES LAYING-OFF THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN WORKERS DON�T NEED GUEST WORKERS

    Please Support the Sanders-Grassley Employ America Amendment to the Tax Extenders bill


    Dear Colleague:

    Since the recession started in December of 2007, nearly 8 million Americans have lost their jobs and the unemployment rate has nearly doubled. In total, 15 million Americans are officially unemployed, another 8.8 million Americans are working part-time only because they cannot find a full-time job, and more than one million workers have given up looking for work altogether.

    With the unemployment rate still unacceptably high and millions of people looking for a job, we have a responsibility to ensure that companies do not use temporary visa programs to replace American workers with cheaper labor from overseas.

    Therefore, during the consideration of the American Jobs and Closing Tax Loopholes Act, we will be offering an amendment that would prohibit companies which have announced mass lay-offs over the past year from hiring guest workers, unless they can prove that their overall employment will not be reduced as a result of these lay-offs.

    At a time when millions of Americans are out of work, the notion that we need to import labor from abroad because there are not enough qualified, willing or able American workers in this country rings hollow.

    Recently, some of the very companies that have hired tens of thousands of guest-workers from overseas have announced large scale lay-offs of American workers. The high-tech industry, a major employer of H-1B guest workers, has announced over 330,000 job cuts since 2008. The construction industry, a major employer of H-2B guest-workers, has laid-off 1.9 million workers since December of 2007.

    The American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan, signed into law last February, included a provision to prevent companies receiving assistance through the Troubled Asset Relief Program from replacing laid-off American workers with guest-workers from overseas.

    The Employ America Act expands upon this provision to prevent any company engaged in a mass lay-off of American workers from importing cheaper labor from abroad through temporary guest-worker programs. Those companies that are truly facing labor shortages would not be impacted by this legislation and could continue to obtain employer-sponsored visas. Only companies that are laying-off a large number of Americans would be barred from importing foreign workers through guest worker programs.

    If you would like to co-sponsor this amendment, please have your staff contact Warren Gunnels in Sen. Sanders� office at 8-6358 or Kathy Nuebel Kovarik in Sen. Grassley's office at 4-3744.

    Sincerely
    Called up my friends, forwarded to dozens of my friends and asked them to forward.



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  • belmontboy
    03-21 04:48 PM
    There is no requirement for any company to sponsor green cards for any employee. A job is granted to you based on requirement of the company. Once that requirement no longer exists, the company can (and should) lay off the employee. This applies to H1 extensions and filing of GC.
    GC filing is completely based on the company needing your service. Unless you totally excel and become indispensible to the company, they do not need to keep you. This is unlike a secure Govt. job in most 3rd world countries.
    The conclusion is that this list would include ALL COMPANIES IN THE WORLD (and some Govts jobs). However, the list is not of rogue companies but simply companies that are run well.

    Speaking generally, companies have no requirement to provide other benefits like health insurance, 401k, options...etc. But why do most companies offer these? - They do so to attract top talent. That's how a company distinguishes itself from its competitors.

    Applying for GC has become one of the incentives.

    A company offering GC incentive during hiring, but withholding it, would amount to unethical practice. And is certainly bound to lose its top talents (specifically immigrant ones)





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  • ak27
    02-20 09:32 AM
    I have written to my congressmen couple of times but I am yet to recieve any response. I will contact his office again this week..

    Ajay





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  • thomachan72
    07-30 11:51 AM
    LOL.

    The issue of GOD and religion has been discussed ad nauseum by many great thinkers and philosophers (Spinoza, Voltaire, Hume, Russel etc.). Most of us do not read their opinions and try to broaden our knowledge. We never get beyond what our parents taught us about GOD and religion. What is worse still is that the allegorical descriptions in religious texts are now treated as facts and we often end up arguing over these as well.

    Having said that, there is nothing wrong in believing in GOD. There is also nothing wrong if someone is not convinced about the existence of GOD. There are valid philosophical arguments for both cases. Lack of mutual respect and failing to see others point of view is what is causing this rift.
    Very well said!!! But I have a feeling that the present generation (I mean ages less than 20) are more distant from religion/religious texts/religios leader/ or even the concept of God than we are/were. Well I dont know a lot among this group but atleast the ones that we meet in India/us seem to be least interested in God / religious talks compared to Ipod/iphone/ps3. Hopefully technology and prosperity will help buffer the rigid often disilusioned teachings of religions or atleast lead the future generations to a common religion/god/gods rather than the present kabillion varieties.





    spicy_guy
    08-11 05:57 PM
    Again, as I mentioned, we are jumping all over the board with different ideas and opinions. This leads to no where. Someone who has good understanding of USCIS / DOS / Govt procedures should come up with an agenda and move forward from there. We'll need to work with IV leadership team too. (At this time, I don't think they are even looking into this effort, as understandably they have other goals in hand). However, we should approach them with concrete plan of action.

    Everyone is willing to Donate $$$. But for what? What are we going to spend that money on?
    We need focused efforts.

    Lets join hands and maybe the OP can take the lead in preparing the agenda / plan of action.

    What say you guys?

    Bottom line: I believe we can do! Of course, we need to procure support from multiple sources like some of the ideas mentioned by the posters CompleteAmerica, Talking to senators on Aug 15th, etc.





    gautamagg
    04-23 03:44 PM
    Are you one of the guys who considered going to France as you cannot go to school Full time?

    yes



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