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  • PlainSpeak
    01-14 12:58 PM
    don't make up your own sorry, sad, soap opera



    Your first mistake is criticizing IV and its strategy on a open forum. The core listens to only ideas from active volunteers and donors and incorporates their suggestions, not a free loader, day dreamer who thinks he/she is brilliant. What any one else says on forums doesn't make any difference.
    You think that by arguing on the forum, you can come up with a better idea.
    So in a way you're just throwing eggs at IV. All you talk for the last 2 days is just wasting everyones time.
    If you want IV to listen to you, you must have actively worked with them in the last 4 years, gained knowledge about advocacy and their trust and only then can they consider any of your ideas.
    You have clearly shown that you know nothing.
    This is a message for other members too, if you want core and management to listen to your ideas, be active in your state chapter and many mail groups we have working on intiatives, rather than cursing on forums.
    You will then be working on action items that can change the lives of legal immigrants for the better and make a big difference.
    don't make up your own sorry, sad, soap opera
    My friend a correct it is not mine but it is a sad reflection of your story

    Your first mistake is criticizing IV and its strategy on a open forum. The core listens to only ideas from active volunteers and donors and incorporates their suggestions, not a free loader, day dreamer who thinks he/she is brilliant. What any one else says on forums doesn't make any difference.
    Ahhh my friend no one is asking for core to implement this suggestion. The suggestion was for discussion. Now all we had is name calling but no dicsussion. I hve not had even one esteemed member and donort and volunteer explain to me why this idea is a bad idea

    You think that by arguing on the forum, you can come up with a better idea.
    My friend for an idea yes discusiion is needed. Now once the idea is agreed upon it has to be fleshed out. That is when people get inv,loved in doing the ground work and i knwo i could go aon and on burt what is the use of talking about a house bluepritn when all guys are willing able and ready to do is tear up the idea in a ferezy

    So in a way you're just throwing eggs at IV. All you talk for the last 2 days is just wasting everyones time.
    Eggs at IV?? My friend if my intention was naything i would have been much worse. But i stil have hope in you all. At some point of time tempers will cool down and people will start thinking rationally

    If you want IV to listen to you, you must have actively worked with them in the last 4 years, gained knowledge about advocacy and their trust and only then can they consider any of your ideas.
    You have clearly shown that you know nothing.
    Yes i did not work because i choose not to. Evrybody started as a fresher in any xcareer. No body was born experienced. Now you can take this point as my plunge into IV work but noooooo you do not want a person with a different idea. You want a slave who wil lsay Yes Master and do your bidding.


    This is a message for other members too, if you want core and management to listen to your ideas, be active in your state chapter and many mail groups we have working on intiatives, rather than cursing
    on forums.
    Who is cursing on forum. If you read through the messages again you people are cursing and i am patiently replying back to each and every one

    You will then be working on action items that can change the lives of legal immigrants for the better and make a big difference.
    My friend i will not jump into a hole in the ground if i am a sheep and the hole contains 100 wolfs baying for blood(yes that would be all you abusers). Since we are talking about actionable idea let me talk about something

    When i started this topic i had about 800 + points. When i last checked i have now - 2000 points. All these given by people like you (All these donors and senior members). Now you are asking me for specific details of my plan and my thinking is they heard the plan and got so pissed off that they started abusing me very badly and gave me so many reds that it must be a IV record and now uyou get a brain wave and i am supposed to tell specifics of my plan. What conditions are you as a IV member creating for me discussing my ideas. NOTHING. So that would mean you have no interest in listening to what i say but are just acting nice so that all thiose silent readers of the post will not notice this and think that you are doing great





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  • msp1976
    02-18 09:45 PM
    Brother; I am also an immigrant. At high levels; I think there should be no quota on employment base.


    I would say Amen to that....
    Hallelullah!.................



    The whole issue of asking for I-485 without priority date comes from the 'spouse not able to work' issue......
    Once 485 can be filed....Spouse can obtain work authorization and everything falls into place because of the derivative benefits of I-485......
    You see if the wait for GC was just 2/3 years...no one would ask for the 485 without PD provision.....
    But how long can I keep telling my well educated spouse( Bachelors degree in computer science..MS in progress) to put her career on hold ??
    There are cases of marriages falling apart because of this issue...
    Now United states calls herself 'land of opportunity' and 'defender of family values'..... What about keeping our families intact....??





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  • go_guy123
    06-15 01:23 PM
    I believe in luck in the GC process. Before 2005 PERM process, many folks applied in states where Labor was fast. They were able to get greencards within a couple of years while others were stuck in Labor Backlog centers (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=67&Itemid=50). Some cleared all hurdles and got stuck in namechecks for years. Until 2007 Namecheck was a big scare. (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=81&Itemid=61)

    Many people could not file in July 07 for various reasons. Some people were born in India but were brought up in other country. Even they are stuck. Some people decided to rise in their careers and changed jobs on H1. While they did rise, but lost in the grreencard PD race.

    So definitely luck pays its role.


    Well said pappu....In case 2 of my friends Indian citizens, brought up in India
    but were born outside India because their parents were posted there.

    Also I know friends whose Labor was processed from "fast" states in 2000 and got there GC by 2003 or so.





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  • Winner
    09-23 01:36 PM
    Has anybody really tried to get a mortgage recently? I have been denied by 8 lenders so far simply because I don't have a green card. Most lenders have tightened their underwriting guidelines. They will give mortgages only to U.S.Citizens or somebody who is a permanent resident aka having a green card. There are very very few lenders who will give mortgages to somebody on a visa and the rates may not be very favorable.
    I used www.MemberhomeLoan.com



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  • _TrueFacts
    09-04 09:47 PM
    This MF doesn't even have minimum decency to just leave alone a Dead Man.


    breddy2000,

    Shame on you. thoo

    In your love for YSR, you are behaving like him. Are you from Kadapa? Why unnecessarily picking on CHANDUV23. I got his profile id from Orkut.

    orkut - (http://www.orkut.com/Main#FullProfile?rl=pcb&uid=16002627991370248382)





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  • Abhinaym
    01-13 01:45 PM
    Just more ways to perpetuate their buereaucracy and make the lives of legal immigrants (and non-immigrants) tougher.

    Almost every rule these stupid agencies make is against small businesses.



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  • bsnf
    07-10 11:08 AM
    Good Luck.

    I think you should publish your story.





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  • Saburi
    07-08 06:19 PM
    This Question is for the Lawyer, how would the applicant know wether his or her aI 140 is revocked as my employer is saying he will revoke my I 140 but till date i have not recd any letter from USCIS or any other issues, how can somebody find out if the I 140 is revocked.

    Please let me know on this.

    Thanks for your help

    Saburi.



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  • brij523
    02-13 09:10 AM
    Chanduv,

    I know in the past many times it was debated -- why people do not support? Let me put forth what I feel.

    Effort put by IV is very commendable. But the beneficiary of IV work (mostly) do not give importance to Green Card. That is what I think based on talking to multiple people and that is what we see from the % participation of people for various fruitful effort put forth by IV. Most of them say they do not care if they get GC or not. In their heart of heart they may but not too much.

    Other reason I can think of is -- There could be doubt in minds of many people of IV strength. The day IV gets some success, people will rally behind IV for a while. And that is the scenario outside world too. See the stock price. If the company is doing good, stock price goes up. The day one bad news comes, stocks falls down. Take the presidential election. You can very well make out that contribution by company or people is proportional to candidate wins. If you are loosing, contribution will dry out very fast. I am not saying that candidate will not have supporter but that would be less in number. Take N.T. Rama Rao case. The day Naidu ditched him and others followed him, no officials gave importance to NTR.

    Believe me, in my office or outside, I have talked to every Indian. And not one comes back n discusses with me about IV.

    I strongly feel IV is doing a commendable job with some dedicated contributors.


    IV in past has looked into all options. It is not possible to sue USCIS because the law protects them for what they are doing. they are following the law.

    If people think we have a case, please take initiative and lead this - you will know how ready the community is. All those who are talking big here on this thread will run away u will see them running 180 degrees the other side if you ask them to come for the class action.

    We are not able to generate enough letters - people tend to be rude when asked to sign letters and fight us finding fault with us.

    The only way we can achieve something is if we unite and that has to happen through community building exercises and inculcating a sense for the community in the people.

    I am ready to support this initiative if it is feasable - so please do not get me wrong or think that I am pessimist. The ckind of community we are dealing with, things are not that easy that we open a thread on IV and everyone follow it.

    How many sent flowers? Close to 300
    How many attended rally? - close to 2000
    How many sending letters ? - close to 2000

    All this after so much of cajoling and motivating. needhelp and gang working tirelessly trying hard to get signatures, standing outside grocery stores, standing in train stations, being so focussed - why can others not see what they are doing? The only way our community is going to succeed is by more people coming forward and complimenting efforts of needhelp and and this must keep increasing.

    Is the community ready to stand up and rise in unity? Or just opening threads and discussing anonymously and then burying the threads deep below?

    Can we walk the talk?





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  • mbawa2574
    02-15 04:03 PM
    u r missing my point..
    Again you are saying it's a SKILL cap. We can agree business may hire whoever they please but don't pretend that they only hire based on SKILL..
    when someone says let business hire the "best and brightest", that's my problem, he implies the best and brightest are concentrated in only two countries so that's what's insane, that's why he won't be taken seriously.
    cheers.

    Who is preventing people of ROW for applying H1b or Green card EB ? Employers look for availability of talent not for country of origin and anyone who competes in the global market wins. If ROW countries have less people with marketable skills or less people who want to work outside their countries,it is not the problem of Chinese or Indians. There is no logic with Employers being forced to wait for visa numbers to comply with diversity. There should be a FIFO system without any country of birth barriers. USCIS wastes more annual visa numbers due to these country caps. Lets make these guys fine tune this immigration system which is actually against the free market capitalist principles of this country.



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  • hiralal
    06-15 09:36 PM
    Just hang on to your jobs or find a job if you loose one. You will get your GC. GC shouldn't stop you from pursuing your interests buying house or starting a business, there are always ways to do it.
    I am guessing that your intention is good but the advice is BAD (to put it mildly).
    Find a new job if you are on H1 / or even EAD -- first try the same and then let us know.
    regarding buying house - if you are welder from Korea - sure go ahead even if you PD is 2006. if from China / India -- just forget it for the time being ... it will add too much stress in your life ..better have the money in liquid form. it is good to be optimistic but you need to be a realist first ..as others have said, if they cannot print a plastic green card for you then it is foolish for you to invest your hard earned money in real estate





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  • ryan
    08-17 02:45 PM
    I just have to say one thing about you. You were born with a slave mentality in a third country. Its been passed to you from generations. You will go any length to prove your masters are fair and honest and its not your fault. You never experienced free, your own country by your own admission. So stop blabbering and justifying your masters, we dont buy it.

    I think your words above, speak a lot about who you are and your ways of thinking. I feel sorry for you. Hope you find the 'importance' and the 'intelligence' someday.

    Be well.



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  • Ramba
    03-19 05:15 PM
    I did canada PR myself two years back and I got the visa in 10 months. It is so easy. However I did not go there and wasted my canada PR. Now I am seriously thinking again.

    I applied canada PR when my LC was pending at labor department. I was expecting that my LC will go to BEC. That is why I applied Canada PR as there was a talk going on about backlog center creation in 2004. Luckilly my LC was approved at regional level. It did not go to BEC. I could file 140 and 485 as PD was current that time. That gave me a confidence in skipping the Canada PR. Moreover, I heared a story, if they (Canada/US) know, if 485 pending during the landing process they will give hard time by asking you to select either US PR or Canada PR at the borderpost. Imagine, how hard it will be at the border to answer this kind of life deciding questions. Therefore I skipped the canada PR. Now it is becoming almost 2 years. No sign of CIR yet. Spending lot of money on EAD and AP. On top of that lot of frustration. Now I am seriously considering that I missed Canada, I should have gone that time. I do not know what to do, whether I should apply again (lot of money) or wait for GC as my 485 still pending.





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  • gopinathan
    07-28 08:24 PM
    dude... that is fundamentally incomplete. you should add - "as long as you don't cause discomfort to others or trespass their personal space".. there is a big difference..

    ... No work is small or big , good or bad , work is work.. ... Grow up.



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  • ramus
    07-04 09:03 AM
    Thanks..

    Could you look at the following report and try to find email of the reporter and let him/her know what happened with us.

    http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/news/newsbyid.asp?id=68312&cat=Today's+Most+Popular+Stories&more=/news/newspopular.asp


    Thanks..

    We need multipal people working on different action items.. Lets spend our holiday doing something for us/IV.




    also sent it to the drudge report...if he picks it up other talk show hots will pick it up too.





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  • alisa
    06-27 10:00 PM
    Yes I agree.. But if they don't move date foward then they can't approve those backlog applications.And they don't want to loose 40,000 visas . Now when they made all date current, they can approve all those pending application which are complete and just waiting for date to become current. Now we don't know real number and don't know how long it will take USCIS to do all approvals. But if they approve 40,000 in 2 weeks, I won't be surprised if they make it 'U' like other workers.

    But then question still remains why they made all current. They could have just moved it by year or so.. And I am sure they know how many application they can expect in July.. I already saw some where that we have around more then 80,000 approved perm.. All they going to apply.. And what about all whose labor just got approved fro Backlog centers?

    Its making everybody confused.. But its not in our hand and we can't do anything. Best thing is to file asap and just hope for best and we are always ready for worst..


    Just think if they make date 'U' in middle of july, how many member going to loose money. Each of us spent so much money this month and if nothing happens that we loose all of it.
    Are you sure about 80000 PERM?

    I recall seeing somewhere that for the entire 2006, there were about 6000 PERMs.



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  • sanjay
    03-27 12:01 PM
    One idiot without giving him name in comments started abusing in Hindi language.
    Dude when you have guts to put comments then put your name in it. So that I know who has issues with my comments to thread.

    And just don't give red " just for the sake of giving it make you feel happy ".





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  • voldemar
    03-27 10:06 PM
    Can you please provide link for the memo.
    Sure http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20061800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2006/06-1248.htm





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  • unitednations
    02-13 09:07 PM
    I am following this discussion and it is interesting. Here is what I get so far.

    USCIS is not allotting excess visa number horizontally. Unused visas from Eb1 and EB2 are not going to over subscribed countries but to EB3 ROW. The "total" visas in the law can be read as total visa across all categories. If this is true then it is likely that untill EB3 ROW becomes current, India and China will only get 7%. But here is what I do not get.

    1) From november 2005 bulletin, USCIS is saying that they are going to suspend AC21. Why did they decide to suspend ac21? Can they decide on their own when they are going to apply to AC21 and when they are not? Is AC21 not a law?

    2) Why or how did USCIS allocate large number of visas to over subscribed countries India and China before? Like in the November bulletin, USCIS says india used up around 44000 visas. Were they allocating more visas by following AC21? If yes, then why did they decide to suspend AC21? If no, then how they allocated so many numbers?

    I am trying to understand the how the USCIS decides to allocate visa numbers. And it is very complex.


    No; it is not in their discretion to suspend anything.

    Before concurrent filing came around (2002); it was pretty easy to calculate dates because the 140's had to be approved. from here they could get good estimates.

    However; they weren't ready for concurrent filing and 140's sat for almost one to two years to get approved. It looks like at this time; the visa dates started to get screwed up. Essentially, ac21 law says at anytime there is more demand then supply of visas in any quarter then 7% limit will apply. If you think about this; when would a situation ever exist where there wouldn't be more then 35,000 applications in any quarter?

    back in 2003 in one of thos aila liaision minutes; uscis had said that approving 485's for EB people wasn't a priority and they just sat there. Hardly any EB cases got approved back then.

    In April 2005 there was over 35,000 EB approvals mainly due to ombudsmen slamming them for not approving the cases. It looks like when all these cases got approved; someone at uscis/dos realized there was a big problem in their handling of visa dates and that there were too many applicants for visas and established dates and then in October 2006 they went strictly by more demand then visas available in a quarter then no ac21 and retrogression.

    That's why I say there are also many people walking around with 485's who perhaps shouldn't be; because dos/uscis didn't do it properly in the last few years.

    Also, due to the long time it was taking to get labors approved in heavy immigrant states (california, texas, georiga, new jersey, new york, virigina) many people from ROW in these states weren't able to get labors approved. However, many enterprising companies decided they were going to open branch offices in fast processing states (maine, new hampshire, south dakota, wisconsin) and get the labors approved very fast. This is why there is people with 2004 priority dates in eb3 with 485's pending but people in the slow states couldn't file. Now; there is a big convergence of all of this together. We all just happen to have gotten caught in a unique period of time in immigration (245i's; labor backlogs; concurrent filing; expansion of h-1b's, etc.).





    docp
    06-03 06:04 PM
    this article says and I quote:
    "Mr. Oppenheim stated that immigrant visa applications at U.S. consulates abroad are down seven percent from FY2008. India will use all the visa numbers that are available to its nationals this fiscal year. This is due, in part, to huge increases in the usage of EB4 and EB5 categories. Applicants from India have used twice the number of visas estimated for FY2009"
    now the only category indians could have used up more numbers is EB1, as that is the only category which is current. and this means that india's normal share about 9600 per year, so an extra 9600 EB1 were issued to india, which sounds improbable. this also contradicts what is said in the next paragraph about EB1 usage.
    "Mr. Oppenheim expects that all EB1 visa numbers will be used before the end of FY2009. This may result in the establishment of a cutoff date for the EB1 categories for India and China, beginning in August or September 2009. Usage in the EB1 worldwide category (listed as "all chargeability areas except those listed") is also higher than expected. This may lead to imposition of a cutoff date toward the end of FY2009"
    it can not have gone to EB2 because as Mr. Oppenheimer puts it
    "The EB2 category worldwide is also expected to be over-subscribed and will exhaust all allocated visa numbers before the end of FY2009. To date, Mr. Oppenheim estimates that 3,200 EB2 India visa numbers have been used in FY2009. The high usage in the EB1 category has prevented the usual trickle of visas to the EB2 category"
    so i dont know what he is trying to say when india has used twice the limit in 2009..i would really appreciate any input.
    ALso can somebody please explain this sentence as well
    "He stated that, due to the dramatic increase in employment-based filings visa cutoff dates for FY2010 will be much more limited to ensure that there will be a steady supply of visa numbers available throughout the year"
    However a later report from USCIS says there is a drastic reductionin I 140 apps,
    also just today AILA released that DOL is processing JULY 2008 PERM cases, so where is this demand by increased filings that Mr. Oppenheimer talking about coming from.
    I am totally confused. senior members please analyze





    a1b2c3
    06-01 02:12 PM
    Guys,

    I have been working here for 9 years and next year we plan to return back to India. I spoke to SSN customer service to find out my retirement and survivor benefits. Being an Indian citizen, all these are available only if me, or my dependants, have a valid residing status with the US, at the time of making the application. The contribution at this point is like getting a right to work. This is outrageous.

    We all have been legally invited into this country for a work, and that means the US gov should protect our legal and fair interests. It is universally true that everyone works to protect his family. Now here is a case, where I have no right to my retirement money just because I dont have a legal resident status. Whose fault is this. I already made the application 6 years ago. If my home country does not have the comparable SSN structure, then return the money back? We will pay the taxes and take the money back. Our kids need it.

    I dont know what is the appropriate channel to get this fixed. This appears more like human rights violation, or abuse. I am sure there are many in this forum who are in the same boat as I am. Can someone team up with me to do more research or share your discoveries.

    To the US, this is what I got to say:
    =======================
    If you want to protect the jobs for your people, please do it. You have every right. But please dont dump the people you officially invited to augument the workforce of your country into the waters. Before you bring in additional workers to support your companies, do necessary corrections in your immigration policies to let them in only with green card. Dont strangulate their careers. Your existing policies have been burning the aspirations and careers of a lot of innocent people from India and China.

    To those innocent legal foreign workers that have already gathered 40 points in SS, you owe them. They deserve citizenship, not green card. I know it is jumping across multitude of issues, but is it not fair.

    Best wishes to you and sorry to hear this. I thought everyone was entitled to SSN after 10 years of work in the US.
    Do you need to have a green card before you qualifiy to get your SSN back?



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